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Old 17-03-17, 06:18 PM
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Default Bayonet ID please.

Ashamed to admit that I know absolutely nothing about bayonets. Hoping somebody might be able to assist in telling me something about the attached example (total length: 55cm).

Any help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance,

JT

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Old 17-03-17, 06:49 PM
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This should help- http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/us1913kb.htm https://www.antiqueswordsonline.com/...ngton-bayonet/ http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.c...d#.WMw_p3msn5o
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Old 17-03-17, 06:55 PM
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Paul,

Many thanks for the links.

As I now understand it, this bayonet is a 1913 pattern (as denoted by the model year stamped into the base of the blade) below which is stamped the month and year of manufacture (in this case, July 1917):

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It was made by the Remington Arms Company, of America. The company's maker mark being the word 'REMINGTON' within a circle:

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Though issued to the British in WW1, this particular example was issued to American forces, hence the 'US' mark being stamped just below the crossed out, British inspector's mark:

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The grooves cut into the grips allowed the bayonet to be differentiated by sight or touch from the British Pattern 1907, which, apparently, is virtually identical.

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about markings:
http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html

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Old 20-03-17, 09:03 AM
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Many thanks, Didier.

In my abject ignorance, what I am not yet clear on is:

1) Were these manufactured in the UK under licence (Remington being a US company) or in the US?

2) If manufactured for the British, why would some of these bayonets be issued (back) to US troops... would it be due to changes/improvements in rifle development?

3) What precisely do the small reference letters/numbers at the base of the blade refer to? Presumably the crown and Broad Arrow refer to British inspection/control of some sort?

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