Indian ? Signals?

[gurkharifles]

Any ideas what this is - possibly Indian ? - Signals?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2723551540...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Despite the damage it's a nice looking badge.

[ARTY]

I may be wrong but many years ago I am sure I have seen that badge or very similar referring to a Tyneside Signals regt or formation as i said I may be wrong, any other Geordies perhaps may know something.
arty

[ARTY]

Tyne Electrical Engineers

[Chris Walker]

Dear Gurkharifles.

I know Signals is my sphere of collecting but I must admit I have never seen this badge before.

I can understand why the thought of a Signals connection with the hand clasping lightening or even Signals Waves.

The cloth badge that Arty has submitted looks very similar and if he says it is Tyne Electrical Engineers then so be it. I can not say other wise.

Nice if some other members come up with some ideas. Perhaps Quicksilver may come up with something.

Sorry I can not give you any more information on this very nice badge.

Kind regards

Chris Walker
www.signalsbadges.co.uk

[ARTY]

I found this info, hope it may help although does not show badge.The history of the Tyne Electrical Engineers.
History of a Royal Engineers unit, originating on Tyneside, which pioneered the use of mobile searchlights in home defence in the Great War. It also took part in tunnelling operations at Messines on the western front.
The Tyne electrical engineers originated in the early 1880s as a specialist unit in Newcastle responsible for defending the port with submarine mines and searchlights. Its work and numbers grew, and it soon became a full-fledged unit of the Royal Engineers. In the Great War the unit pioneered the use of mobile searchlights, defending ports on its native Tyneside and at Gosport from air and sea attack with searchlight batteries. Units were also engaged on the western front, where, amongst other responsibilities, they supplied water for hard-pressed infantry on the Somme; helped in the tunnelling work that preceded the explosion of a score of gigantic mines at the battle of Messines Ridge. For anyone interested in the vital role of engineering in the Great War, this book is a must. They were also known as the Fortress companies which were originally London and Tyneside based.

[ARTY]

In Brittons badges code 13240 is the formation sign for the Tyne Electrical Engineers also known as the Submarine miners. It is indeed a strange unit. However here is the patch they are selling.. Hope this helps a little more.
Arty

[peter monahan]

Originally Posted by ARTY

In Brittons badges code 13240 is the formation sign for the Tyne Electrical Engineers also known as the Submarine miners. It is indeed a strange unit. However here is the patch they are selling.. Hope this helps a little more.
Arty

Perhaps the genesis of a joking reference I first heard 40 years ago and have repeated periodically since about the "Bombay Underwater Sappers and Miners"? Not Indian but a fascinating unit nonetheless!

[manchesters]

Hello,

Despite all the ID's above I am more inclined to believe this badge is the crest of the Ordnance Board rather than anything to to do the Tyne Electrical Engineers.

I have seen several before.

Any RE (Vols) badge would be in White Metal of course.

regards

[fougasse1940]

The badge of the Submarine Miners of 1st Newcastle Volunteer Engineer Company, ancestors of the Tyne Electrical Engineers, was the crest of the arms of the Master General of Ordnance, 'Issuant out of a Mural Crown or, a dexter Cubit Arm Grasping a Winged Arrow Enflamed Proper'.
See also here: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=26459
My guess is that the badge in this thread has something to do with one of their various pipe bands, perhaps a sporran badge?

Rgds, Thomas.

[manchesters]

Thomas,

I know the Tyne EE did indeed wear a representation of the Ordnance Board crest throughout there existence but did they wear it as a cap badge?

I dont believe so.

IMHO as shown throughout this thread they wore a cloth badge on the arm.

I think they wore the RE cap badge and pipers wore a WM badge bigger and more fanciful than this one.

regards

[GTB]

Originally Posted by manchesters

Hello,

Despite all the ID's above I am more inclined to believe this badge is the crest of the Ordnance Board rather than anything to to do the Tyne Electrical Engineers.

I have seen several before.

Any RE (Vols) badge would be in White Metal of course.

regards

I agree with Simon

GTB

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by ARTY

Tyne Electrical Engineers

The sign as illustrated was worn by 537 LAA/SL Regt RA(TEE)(TA) from 1947 and in a much simplified format by 37 (TEE) SL Regt RE/RA from the late 1930s. Mike

[engr9266]

Originally Posted by manchesters

Thomas,

I know the Tyne EE did indeed wear a representation of the Ordnance Board crest throughout there existence but did they wear it as a cap badge?

I dont believe so.

IMHO as shown throughout this thread they wore a cloth badge on the arm.

I think they wore the RE cap badge and pipers wore a WM badge bigger and more fanciful than this one.

regards

Here is the T.E.E. pipers badge.

[GTB]

This link should help

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gb%5Erets.html

GTB