Two more cloth items

[Sonofacqms]

A tartan patch 80mm square and a shield 55mm deep and 45mm wide.

Any help appreciated in identifying them.

Rob

[Paul Spellman]

Rob,
The tartan is KOSB
Paul

[leigh kitchen]

Also HLI, RSF & I think Seaforths?
Worn on sleeve or as a "cap badge" or backing to a metal cap badge depending on size of the square & orientation of the tartan design.
This one has a number of holes in it by the look of it so presumably it had metal insignia mounted on it?
I don't know what it is at that size, can only think worn as a backing on headgear.

Edit: I'm wondering if it is a backing that was fitted with a metal badge with two horizontal lugs that was later turned through 90% & had a second pair of horizontal holes made when worn by another battalion.

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

Also HLI, RSF & I think Seaforths?
Worn on sleeve or as a "cap badge" or backing to a metal cap badge depending on size of the square & orientation of the tartan design.
This one has a number of holes in it by the look of it so presumably it had metal insignia mounted on it?
I don't know what it is at that size, can only think worn as a backing on headgear.

Edit: I'm wondering if it is a backing that was fitted with a metal badge with two horizontal lugs that was later turned through 90% & had a second pair of horizontal holes made when worn by another battalion.

If its 80mm square (a fraction over 3 in) is definitely the backing for a bonnet badge. The KOSB sleeve badge was 52mm square (2 x 2 in). Mike

[Sonofacqms]

Many thanks chaps, I am sorting my badges through and this one could well end up on my HLI boards when I sort them out.

Regards Rob

[leigh kitchen]

Is that a hole between the two left hand holes?
If so spin the patch 45% clockwise & then flip it over horizontally & it would fit as a backing for a QO Hlndrs three part Staff badge.
I think.......

[Paul Spellman]

The tartan patch is KOSB Leslie tartan, identifiable by the much narrower white diagonal in comparison to the red, HLI wore Mackenzie tartan. it is very unlike the RSF (Erskine tartan) and I'm sure the Seaforths wore the Ancient Mackenzie tartan.
Paul
The HLI wore their pattern set vertical and horizontal.

[Sonofacqms]

Cheers guys, I am amazed at the knowledge on this site.

Rob

[leigh kitchen]

So this 50mm X 50mm patch will be a KOSB sleeve badge I take it?

[Paul Spellman]

Leigh,
If you give it one turn to the right
Paul

[leigh kitchen]

Thanks, I can't suss the intricacies of these tartan patches out unless I check books & I'd never filed a note of what this was with it.

[Paul Spellman]

Leigh,
These ones to the KOSB attract a small premium due to the association with the 7th Bn in their airlanding role despite there being numerous other Battalions within the Regiment out of that role who wore similar.
It is also surprising the amount of Scottish headgear around that has been put together with the wrong badge to tartan and on some Glengarries the wrong badge to the dicing.
You should also note that generally the Pipers in full dress wore a different Tartan to the rest of the Regiment they were with.
Paul

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Paul Spellman

The tartan patch is KOSB Leslie tartan, identifiable by the much narrower white diagonal in comparison to the red, HLI wore Mackenzie tartan. it is very unlike the RSF (Erskine tartan) and I'm sure the Seaforths wore the Ancient Mackenzie tartan.
Paul
The HLI wore their pattern set vertical and horizontal.

Seaforth wore (on BD sleeve) a patch of Mackenzie tartan (3 in wide x 1.75 in deep)

[NEMO]

Originally Posted by Paul Spellman

Leigh,
These ones to the KOSB attract a small premium due to the association with the 7th Bn in their airlanding role despite there being numerous other Battalions within the Regiment out of that role who wore similar.
It is also surprising the amount of Scottish headgear around that has been put together with the wrong badge to tartan and on some Glengarries the wrong badge to the dicing.
You should also note that generally the Pipers in full dress wore a different Tartan to the rest of the Regiment they were with.
Paul

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