Unusual RCA badge

[Tanker Mike]

Never seen a Queens crown with tangs, would this be pre WW1 Victorian?

[54Bty]

Current issue Royal Regiment of Artillery Officers Service Dress Cap badge.

Marc

[Bill A]

To add to Marc`s description, many Canadian officers purchase their badges from the UK.

[Phillip Herring]

The standard headdress for the Canadian Army is the beret. Canadian artillery officers wear the embroidered "gun" cap badge on it. Canadian Instructors in Gunnery wear a khaki British forage cap with a red band and large bronze R(C)A cap badge. As far as I know, the forage caps and bronze badges are obtained from the UK.

Phil

[GTB]

Originally Posted by Bill A

To add to Marc`s description, many Canadian officers purchase their badges from the UK.

Do I understand that a normal RA cap badge can be placed within an RCA collection? I was under the impression that although the RA and RCA wore identical badges for a period, the RA badge would have been manufactured in Canada. I'd like to be put straight on this point, please.
GTB

[Bill A]

GTB, I am not sure of the time period you are discussing?

[GTB]

I don't have specific info. Actually, I am referring to any period wherein the RCA utilised RA badges (KC and QC), either instead of or in conjunction with, RCA badges.
GTB

[Bill A]

Hi GTB, The standard Canadian kc badge striking is slightly different from the UK RA badges. But they are nearly interchangeable. The qc badges are again very similar, but there are differences.
The RCA did not utilize RA badges in general. Canadian gunners wore/wear Canadian made badges. The case mentioned above is for officers' service dress badges. Being the badges are the same design, and British companies have certain officers patterns, many badges are purchased from the UK.

[GTB]

Hi Bill,
To try and facilitate the query , I refer you to the top of the Forum web page - Current Projects: Canadian 1920-50. For RCA there are 2 examples of RA pattern badges captioned Royal Canadian Artillery (S2 and S2A). I take it these are ORs versions? Would these be normal UK RA badges or Canadian versions of normal UK RA badges? If the former then I take it that I can place a spare British badge within the Canadian collection?
GTB

[54Bty]

Originally Posted by GTB

Hi Bill,
To try and facilitate the query , I refer you to the top of the Forum web page - Current Projects: Canadian 1920-50. For RCA there are 2 examples of RA pattern badges captioned Royal Canadian Artillery (S2 and S2A). I take it these are ORs versions? Would these be normal UK RA badges or Canadian versions of normal UK RA badges? If the former then I take it that I can place a spare British badge within the Canadian collection?
GTB

S2 is different (look carefully) S2a is almost the same, however the maker may be Canadian.

Marc

[Bill A]

Canadian badges were lugged until circa 1958. The thickness of the cannon barrel is often cited as another difference.

[ddaydodger]

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[Phillip Herring]

818. INSTRUCTORS-IN-GUNNERY AND ASSISTANT INSTRUCTORS-IN-GUNNERY
1. Instructors-in-Gunnery, when on instructional duty at schools of Artillery or on Artillery ranges in an Instructor-in-Gunnery capacity, will wear the former army khaki forage cap with a red band when wearing operational and garrison dress.
2. Assistant Instructors-in-Gunnery will, when similarly employed, wear a CF Navy OR’s peaked cap with a white cover and red band.
3. The above applies to either gender. This headdress is not worn with No 1, No 2 or No 3 orders of dress. It will not be worn when safety dictates the use of helmets and during Combined Arms training.


Figure 20 shows the caps for Assistant Instructors in Gunnery and Instructors in Gunnery.

http://www.artillery.net/beta/wp-con...s-Vol-I-sm.pdf

Phil

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Clive

[servicepub]

Originally Posted by Phillip Herring

818. INSTRUCTORS-IN-GUNNERY AND ASSISTANT INSTRUCTORS-IN-GUNNERY
1. Instructors-in-Gunnery, when on instructional duty at schools of Artillery or on Artillery ranges in an Instructor-in-Gunnery capacity, will wear the former army khaki forage cap with a red band when wearing operational and garrison dress.
2. Assistant Instructors-in-Gunnery will, when similarly employed, wear a CF Navy OR’s peaked cap with a white cover and red band.
3. The above applies to either gender. This headdress is not worn with No 1, No 2 or No 3 orders of dress. It will not be worn when safety dictates the use of helmets and during Combined Arms training.


Figure 20 shows the caps for Assistant Instructors in Gunnery and Instructors in Gunnery.

http://www.artillery.net/beta/wp-con...s-Vol-I-sm.pdf

Phil

Here's the original authorization dated April 1943.