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09-02-14, 10:55 PM
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SHAKO PLATE -ORIGINAL OR COPY?
Hi Everyone,
I am seeking advice on this Infantry general pattern shako plate that I have on appro. from a fellow collector. it is 158mm x 105 mm approx. Is it original or a copy and how you can tell? I can supply more pics if required. best regards Jim 
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#2
10-02-14, 08:10 PM
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How much are you having to pay for it.
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Leave to carry on Sir please.
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#3
10-02-14, 08:22 PM
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Is there a flaw mark in the die in the top right, just above the orb of the crown.
There's a few others marks common to the firmin die pattern. They used to stamp them with an F on the rear, but stopped doing it a while back. Lots of these coming in from India these days though. Then it's a copy .
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#4
10-02-14, 08:33 PM
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Ps... it's got spurred spheres on the orb of the crown. That's definitely the Firmin die pattern.
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#5
10-02-14, 11:26 PM
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If I was you, I would buy a fake one, for about £15, from a dealer, see if yours is the same, or not. Then sell the fake on flee bay for £10.00.
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#6
10-02-14, 11:33 PM
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theres loads of fakes at under £25, just have a look under goggle images, using infantry shako plate.
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#7
10-02-14, 11:56 PM
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SHAKO PLATE -ORIGINAL OR COPY
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the responses. My collector friend is asking around AU$700 ONO as a genuine item -thus my reason for caution. It is not in my sphere of expertise but if true would be a great item to have. I cannot find an "F" mark on the back. I am attaching a close up of the crown area to hopefully give more detail. I can see the spurs and a die imperfection on the edge of the plate above and to the left of the orb-is this what is referred to? Also , it is mentioned that there are other indicators on the genuine article; what would these be? I have looked closely at two fleabay copies from different dealers and they have slight differences to each other and to my example. Therefore buying a copy from a dealer I don't think would help me.
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#8
11-02-14, 02:45 PM
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Generally speaking the originals do not have the little orbs projecting from the cross at the top of the crown.
They also have a very fine, and in some cases not present, border around the plate. While not reliable, it's a good indication, as almost all copies have these. Another Indian made copy has a very shallow GR in the centre and generally the quality of the die engraving is less fine or bold. Currently there are a these two versions of generic pattern (The Firmin die and the copies from it, plus a shallow lower grade), a Royal Scots and a slightly different shaped, smaller, Royal Artillery plate.
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