N°2 Dress jacket

[David Tremain]

Simon, I see the 'Invicta' horse, but since when has RWK had a plume?

David

[Tiger Pete]

The jacket is PWRR Officer's service dress. The belt is not. Not least because it does not have a whistle on the cross strap.

KR,

Pete.

[jf42]

Originally Posted by David Tremain

Simon, I see the 'Invicta' horse, but since when has RWK had a plume?

David

Are the horse and the plume not a hybrid emblem chosen following the creation of the Queen's Regiment in 1966, to commemorate the traditions of the Royal West Kents and the Royal Sussex Regiment?

[leigh kitchen]

It's all down to crossed wires when reading the posts isn't it.
The plume (and star, or is this representing the East Surreys / Royal Surreys) of the R. Sussex and the horse of the RWK.

[jf42]

Yes, the rayed Garter star is Royal Sussex too. The 'Invicta' horse has been substituted for the St George's Cross in the centre.

Touch of lèse majesté there but I assume it was checked with the approriate authorities. Bit late to worry now.

[leigh kitchen]

Oh yes, the horse has er, bolted.

[Toby Purcell]

The Garter star aspect came to the Royal Sussex Regt insignia in 1881, via the Royal Sussex Light Infantry Militia, who had been wearing it for a long time and who formed the new regiment's 3rd (Militia) Battalion. As several posters have pointed out, the central device of a horse came from the two Kent regiments (again via Militia) that was adopted by both, the Queen's Regt and its successor, the PWRR, as part of a so-called (and increasingly diminished) 'golden thread' of historical continuity.

[grey_green_acorn]

Originally Posted by Anjoucollector

A relationship has bought this uniform. May be Queen's Regiment or PWRR. There was a Sam Brown belt too. I don't know if they go together. Would it be possible to confirm the regiment and date the set. Thank you.

Laurent

Laurent,

Can you read the name and date on the tailor's label?

I think this Service Dress jacket was made originally for an officer of the Royal Hampshire Regiment. On the merger in 1992 with the Queen's Regiment it has been re-badged and buttoned to the PWRR. However, this was a temporary measure designed to save unnecessary expense as it is a Prince of Wales's Division pattern in dark barathea (Guards Division shade) with the distinctive 3 button style and a fourth "flat" button under the belt line. It also has longer skirt pocket flaps also on the belt line. The approved PWRR pattern is in dark barathea but with 4 visible buttons and a different skirt pocket flap style. The rank badges should be of the Eversleigh Star pattern for the PWRR as worn previously by the Queen's Regiment but in a bronzed finish. The Tiger arm badge should be on the upper left sleeve.

Tim

[Anjoucollector]

Thank you Tim for these very detailed precisions. This is not my jacket but the inscriptions are not readable any more.
Laurent