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Old 26-02-14, 04:34 PM
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Hi all ,

Could this be an NCO Arm badge ????

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Old 26-02-14, 05:36 PM
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Hello Tony,

There is one ( so similar that I would say yes ), in Linaker & Dine, page 117, plat 36.2 - 14/20 H.

Described as :- LCpls, oxidised silver plated Eagle with gilding metal oval, no mention of lugs but dimensions are 43.8mm high and 35.0mm wide.

Hope this helps rather than hinders ???

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Old 26-02-14, 06:04 PM
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Hi Tony

I agree with Dave; it is certainly an NCO's Arm Badge to either the 14th Hussars or the 14th/20th Hussars but which rank wore it, where and when I am not sure.

Agreed not at all helpful but I will try harder!

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Old 27-02-14, 10:36 AM
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Hi all ,

Could this be an NCO Arm badge ????

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Hi Tony

Yes, I'd agree its a 14H Cpls NCO's Arm Badge, looks good to me and still with the oxidising on the eagle which is nice to see, and I assume it measures up to the dimensions in L&D.

I think the one I have is very similar, it measures 43.7mm x 36mm, two loops NS 31.5mm. My apologies for quality of images, need to do some more but have not the time right now.
As you can see my eagle has lost its oxidising, but can still be found on reverse, which is normally the case.

I'm fairly sure this example, and yours (based on what I can see), is 14H and not 14/20H and I'd suggest they are both pre WWI in date.

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Old 27-02-14, 12:15 PM
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Hi Gordon,Dave and Rob

Thanks for your input , I was sure it was an NCOs arm badge but needed that warm Cudley feeling that you all provided .
Rob I noticed yor example didn't,t have the rope effect on the outer edge of the oval backing .or has it been polished away ???
To be honest I haven.t seen an example for sale , are they scarce ????
I will send dimensions on my return to the Uk

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Old 27-02-14, 05:14 PM
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Hi Gordon,Dave and Rob

Thanks for your input , I was sure it was an NCOs arm badge but needed that warm Cudley feeling that you all provided .
Rob I noticed yor example didn't,t have the rope effect on the outer edge of the oval backing .or has it been polished away ???
To be honest I haven.t seen an example for sale , are they scarce ????
I will send dimensions on my return to the Uk

Thanks again

Tony C
Hi Tony

Yes, the rope effect has been all but rubbed out but you can see remnants particularly just above the sceptre.

As for scarcity, whilst they don't appear in the market place that regularly, they are about.
Strangely enough often miss-described as 14/20H, as indeed mine was.

On a scale of one to ten, I'd put them at around a six/seven for scarcity.

Are you thinking of selling?

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Old 31-03-14, 07:10 PM
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Tony - yours is definitely the 14/20H LCpl badge most likely from the 1930s - I have one exactly the same. Rob's badge is the 14H Cpl badge and probably dates from late 1890s - 1920. In both cases the Hawks were brass, silver plated then oxidised. Rob's shows this up perfectly.
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Tony - yours is definitely the 14/20H LCpl badge most likely from the 1930s - I have one exactly the same. Rob's badge is the 14H Cpl badge and probably dates from late 1890s - 1920. In both cases the Hawks were brass, silver plated then oxidised. Rob's shows this up perfectly.
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It seems I have the assessment of Tony's badge wrong, could you please tell me where I've gone wrong here, is it the loop fixings?
However, I am glad to hear that my evaluation of my own badge is correct in your opinion

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Hi Rob. Not the fixings - it is the shield. 14H did not use a brass plate for LCpls. This only came in with 14/20H. Regards, Hugo.
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Hi Rob. Not the fixings - it is the shield. 14H did not use a brass plate for LCpls. This only came in with 14/20H. Regards, Hugo.
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Thanks yes, its my error I thought it was just a dirty a white metal backing oval. I should have asked the question.

Tony

My apologies.

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Old 17-04-14, 07:34 AM
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No problem. We are all here to help, not to criticise. And I would to be the first to admit that 14H badges are a complete minefield! Hugo
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