firman gilt buttons to ID

[garry thomson]

Hello Gents,
These two Firman salesman samples have been in my collection for a few years now, gathering dust. I hope they are of interest and if some of you can ID them that would be a bonus.
Regards Garry.

[Phil2M]

RYS with anchors is Royal Yacht Squadron

[Phil2M]

Anchir with rising sun is P&O

[Phil2M]

Rys with blue anchor is also Royal Yacht Squadron

[Phil2M]

Lion holding ball is Cunard Line

[Cribyn]

Hello Garry

As far as I can see you have a fine collection of basically naval buttons, a mix of navy, shipping line and yacht club buttons plus the odd hunt button or two.

The button with the dragon looks like that for the 1st Punjab Regiment but as the dragon has no crown (at least I can't see one) I don't think it is.

I believe the button with the fox over 'AHC' is for the Atherstone Hunt. The two crowns over 'CH' is for the Royal Calpe Hunt on Gibraltar. Hunt buttons are not my speciality, so I stand to be corrected.

Some of the maritime buttons identify themselves - Dominion Shipping Line, Royal Cruising Club and so on.

The three anchors over 'RYS' is, I believe, one version for the Royal Yacht Squadron'. The button with a pennant and star is the White Star Line.

Once again, I am not really comfortable with maritime buttons but I expect someone who is will have all the answers!

A very nice display and thanks for showing them.

Roger

[Tinto]

Hi Garry,
As others have said, a great display. Thanks.
I see a nice New Zealand Shipping Company button there.
Cheers, Tinto

[btns]

Such cards were usually filled with old stock.
The youngest button will date them.

Can I have pictures of the enamelled button please
I'd like to know the bottom text of the London Sanitary Authority button

Some of the buttons have been identified in previous posts, but here is a list of most of them.

buttons3 009:
top row:
1. need better picture
2. Elder Dempster Beaver Line
3. need better picture
2nd row
1. Nelson line
2. generic merchant navy
3. New zealand Steamship Co
4. Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve
4. P. & O.
3rd row
1. Nelson line
2. generic merchant navy
3. Eastern Telegraph Company
4. Irrawaddy Flotilla Company
5. G. & J. Burns & Co
4th row
1. Royal Mail Steam Packet Company (Victorian period)
2. Shaw, Savill & Albion
3. British India Steam Navigation Company
4. Thames Conservancy Board

buttons3 001
1 & 2: Royal Navy, flag officers, (1902-1952)

buttons3 002
1 & 2: Royal Yacht Squadron
5. Royal Mail Steam Packet Company (Edward VII period)

buttons3 003
1. Royal Yacht Squadron
2. Royal Navy Reserve

buttons3 004
1. Royal Cruising Club

buttons3 005:
1. unknown - it could be a mandarin Chinese army button

buttons3 006
1. Royal Calpé Hunt, Gibraltar

buttons3 007
1. Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve

buttons3 008
1. Atherstone Hunt Club

buttons3 010
1. Elder Dempster Beaver Line

buttons3 011
1. London Port Sanitary Authority, ....

buttons3 013
1. Port Commissioners, Calcutta
2. Dominion Line

buttons3 12
1. Eastern Telegraph Company
2. White Star Line

[garry thomson]

Thank you for the info gents. It would be interesting to know how many still exist. BTNS I will send the other pics later this evening.
Garry.

[Phil2M]

Royal Yacht Squadron and P&O definitely still exist

[garry thomson]

Hello Gents The back marks vary from Firman& Sons Strand London, Firman& Sons LTD London, Firman London and C Miller & Son. What period? The button 3 011 is Port sanitary authority inspector. BTNS here are the pics. Tinto the N.Z.S.Co. is back marked C Miller & Son.
Thanks Garry

[btns]

Thank you for the extra images.

The button with the enamelled flag carries its name.
The bronze button is the Royal Temple Yacht Club.

Most of the Port Sanitary buttons do not have a rank. This one is unusal.

I guess both trays date from the 1950s/1960s. Manufacturers used good quality, but obsolete items.