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08-08-17, 05:09 PM
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A Valentine Tank Crew From 17/21st Lancers,
An interesting photo showing a crewman wearing the 17th/21st cap badge on a FSC and not on a black beret.
Jo http://www.kentphotoarchive.com/kpa/...&pagenumber=11
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#2
08-08-17, 05:47 PM
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Wonderful photo, well found.
In line with most cavalry regiments and many yeomanry regiments the black beret wasn't adopted until later. In 17/21L's case I haven't been able to pin it down any more accurately than summer 1942 (16/5L in the same brigade adopted the black beret then). Several cavalry regiments resisted the black beret until 1944, 3rd Carabiniers for example not until ordered to do so late 1944. John
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08-08-17, 06:13 PM
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Thanks for the info,it's appreciated.
Jo
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08-08-17, 06:30 PM
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Mates in9th. Lancers Palestine 1947.
We in the BAYS did not adopt the beret until mid 1946.
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#5
08-08-17, 06:34 PM
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2nd.Armd.Bgd. Farewell Parade El Quassassin Sep 1947....note 9th. Lancers lads in second tank.
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08-08-17, 07:43 PM
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17th/21st Lancers were equipped with Valentines in the Uk in 1941 when they came back from India. The name Cerberus indicates a C Squadron tank. Tanks were named after racehorses following the Squadron letter.
Rgds, Thomas.
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#7
09-08-17, 06:22 AM
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Photo,s
Many thanks to all who contributed to this post some cracking photos and that link to other pics
BTW the British army tank crews were still using those cookers and dixies in 2007 when I left the army . 😊 Regards 3748 Hussar QUOTE=fougasse1940;416116]17th/21st Lancers were equipped with Valentines in the Uk in 1941 when they came back from India. The name Cerberus indicates a C Squadron tank. Tanks were named after racehorses following the Squadron letter. Rgds, Thomas.[/QUOTE]
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#8
09-08-17, 08:42 AM
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Cooker No2 Mk 2 ? Tim
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#9
09-08-17, 08:45 AM
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With the "Dixie"
Tim
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09-08-17, 05:02 PM
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Hello everyone,
I know this is not serious, but the "Cerberus" does not have to watch many things ....  I would like to know what he is preparing in their mess tins ....  A French..
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#11
09-08-17, 06:07 PM
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Mon cher Jean-Paul,about Cerberus.......In Greek mythology, Cerberus, often called the "hound of Hades", is the monstrous multi-headed dog that guards the gates of the Underworld to prevent the dead from leaving. in this case you have three cerberus garding their meal......
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#12
10-08-17, 05:38 PM
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John
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