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This is the badge I bought. Note the lack of ridged edges to the inner wings, poor quality crown and lion (particularly the lion) and grey solder to lug base. Jack. |
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Thanks Jack, that is very interesting and very telling, I have not bothered to look around at this sort of thing for a couple of decades or so, I was surprised to see this sort of blatant behaviour, notwithstanding, it is certainly nothing new, sadly the merchants of dross will do all they can to try and authenticate their wares.
The Palestine story I found very amusing, in particular, until reading this thread, I had never even heard of it. I do hope that few people have been taken in by it, if after a number of decades have come and gone, a new and very different badge simply just appears, along with a story, alarm bells should certainly start ringing, sadly, for some, at least, they clearly do not. Regards again, Frank Quote:
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Here's an image of a box of badges I saved from a Dutch Militaria sellers site:
Rgds, Thomas. |
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This is the badge I bought. Note the lack of ridged edges to the inner wings, poor quality crown and lion (particularly the lion) and grey solder to lug base. Jack.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Jack. Close-up views of the lugs. It is the same pattern as your badge. The color is different though. |
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Hello Thomas,
Eighty Five Euro! Seriously? Regards Frank |
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I still don't understand why they would use a total different pattern for mass producing these fakes. If you undertake that type reproduction business, why not choosing a classic WW2 pattern with voided crown? |
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That's the same pattern badge in question, was there any explanation by the dealer as to where they originated and did he have more than one box? Jack |
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Close-up views of the lugs. It is the same pattern as your badge. The color is different though.[/QUOTE] Hi Pierre, Apart from it's originality being questionable, I think the worst feature of this badge is the attachment of the lugs, even the 1950's metal badges were attached by a brazing process which showed the lugs to be firmly fixed with brass material. The colour of your badge is probably due to the inconsistent ratios of the different metals used to produce white metal. Jack |
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Don't remember the dealer's explanation but the were peddled as originals. Several dealers had these boxes, wether this one had more than one I don't know. Rgds, Thomas. |
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Rgds, Thomas. |
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please be aware that what was made before can be made again, exact. however subtle differences are introduced for recognition purposes. when items are offered back to " dealers " they put on their second hand car salesman hats and inform the punter that they have plenty of that model in stock or there is not much call for " your " particular model. why would they desire to buy back " their " garbage ? it is easy for people to join Lord Vader.
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" the art of collecting badges, darker'n a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night " |
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As Alec Guinness would have doubtless noted, a hive of scum and villainy and would, I suspect, have advised caution!
Last edited by Frank Kelley; 31-07-17 at 01:04 PM. |
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good to see these pics of this horrible badge, thanks.
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Regards, Jerry |
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A collector could have certainly expected to pay rather less than eighty five euro for an original badge, the words, theft and deception spring to mind.
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Anyway, it looks like these badges are all over the place: see these from another Dutch dealer (same price...) |
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