Surrey Yeomanry

[Alan O]

I recently purchased one of these Surrey Yeomanrycap badges in gilding metal and red enamel. It is the smaller size compared to the full size g/m one I have already.

The question I have is can any one date its wear? I presume that it is an ORs badge as K&K say but for wear with what dress? Blue patrols perhaps?

Thanks

Alan

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Alan Owen

I recently purchased one of these Surrey Yeomanrycap badges in gilding metal and red enamel. It is the smaller size compared to the full size g/m one I have already.

The question I have is can any one date its wear? I presume that it is an ORs badge as K&K say but for wear with what dress? Blue patrols perhaps?

Thanks

Alan

I think it's later rather than the 'normal/common' pattern as the size is as the w/m version which I think was post WW1..Neither of these are in KK Vol1 but are in Vol2.

[Alan O]

Keith,

Many thanks. I dug out my w/m beret sized and they are the same size. I was wondering whether they were pre or post WW2.

Alan

[badjez]

Upon seeing the attached ebay advert I recognised this is yet another badge I know nothing about [mutterings of 'nothing new there'].

Using coloured enamel on a badge is unusual in the British Army, but when it is done it is usually carried out by a craftsman. This badge doesn't exhibit the usual level of skill normally attributed to this sort of badge.

It doesn't feature in the post-war List of Changes, but IF it is an officers' badge I wouldn't expect it to.

Can anyone provide anything of substance to prove the veracity of this item?

Thanks, Stephen.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAP-BADGES...item3f2dbba87a

[Alan O]

It's in K&K so Hugh King thought it ok. I would halve the asking price however. That dealer has very, very high prices.

[Postwarden]

In the 1970s a father of a school friend of mine served with the Surrey Yeomanry or 263rd (Surrey Yeomanry, Queen Mary's) Field Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA) to give them their correct title at the time.

As a result I acquired a complete set of Surrey Yeomanry badges including the example shown. So the badge was worn at some point by the regiment although even at the time I acquired it I could not establish when and by who (soldiers don't often remember such fine collecting points) although I got the impression it was an ORs cap badge rather than an officers.

Jon

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Postwarden

In the 1970s a father of a school friend of mine served with the Surrey Yeomanry or 263rd (Surrey Yeomanry, Queen Mary's) Field Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA) to give them their correct title at the time.

As a result I acquired a complete set of Surrey Yeomanry badges including the example shown. So the badge was worn at some point by the regiment although even at the time I acquired it I could not establish when and by who (soldiers don't often remember such fine collecting points) although I got the impression it was an ORs cap badge rather than an officers.

Jon

Having served in 298 (Surrey Yeomanry, Queen Mary's) Fd Regt RA(TA) 1959-60 I asked about this badge which I had seen in a WW2 veteran's small collection. He said it was worn pre-War (1930s). But Surrey Yeomen were keen on the red backing - this is the beret badge I was issued and wore in 1959/60 (news of the late King's death was slow getting to Surrey).
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[badjez]

Thank you gentlemen. As it is probably pre-war that explains its absence from List of Changes as a new issue, but it isn't shown as obsolete either. I suspect therefore it must have been withdrawn before/during WW2, or was an unofficial item.

Another query satisfactorily answered. Thank you.

Stephen.

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

Having served in 298 (Surrey Yeomanry, Queen Mary's) Fd Regt RA(TA) 1959-60 I asked about this badge which I had seen in a WW2 veteran's small collection. He said it was worn pre-War (1930s). But Surrey Yeomen were keen on the red backing - this is the beret badge I was issued and wore in 1959/60 (news of the late King's death was slow getting to Surrey).
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I think it looks nicer with the red felt. Were you based in King's Avenue, Clapham?

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

I think it looks nicer with the red felt. Were you based in King's Avenue, Clapham?

No - R Bty in Redhill, Surrey, colocated with a Coy (-) of RASC Commer 3 tonners. Mike

[Alan O]

I have been of the opinion that the enamel badge was a Yeomanry badge for the Blues hat or coloured side cap for No1 Dress. This would have been provided ay unit expense and as such would not have had a CCN.

My reasoning is that it is too fine a quality for battledress but would be just right for ceremonial dress.

Alan