WELSH HORSE 1914-17

[Rockape]

Here are two examples I have. The collar is 34mm and the cap badge is 40mm.

[Frank Kelley]

It would be both interesting and also very helpful indeed if you could explain why they are copies and add the points to look for on original examples, they should certainly not be easy to find these days.

Originally Posted by 41st

Sorry for the bad news but your titles are modern copies in my opinion. These are now sadly readily available from a couple of internet dealers.

[Frank Kelley]

Perhaps another forum member has some thoughts on the shoulder titles and why they are wrong?

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Jack8

Hi,

I believe that the collar size stated by Bryn Owen was approx. 1.5 inches in height which is 38.1mm which is close to your 40mm. He states that the cap badge is approx. 1.75 inches in height which is 44.5mm making your badge a bit small for a cap badge and nearer to the collar size.

This is just my observation and opinion and welcome other opinions. I too have cap badges to this regiment at around 45mm and another badge at 40mm which I have always thought of as a collar with reference to Owen's approximate measurements.

I am also aware of the smaller badges of around 34mm (which is 1.34 inches) of the same design which are referred to as collars by collectors but these appear to fall a bit short of Bryn Owens approximations.

Opinions please.

Jack.

Jack, I notice no one ever responded to your question about the "small" size of many examples of the lugged badge. I have this one just arrived, 44mm high which I think is close enough to be correct. I think this is a genuine gilded Welsh Horse cap badge on lugs.