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Old 21-07-17, 05:49 PM
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Has come with a small lot of WW2 formation signs, but this is the only one I have failed to identify. I am sure Mike will do, though... :-D
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Old 21-07-17, 07:56 PM
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Its the red dragon.... Monmouthsire type... probably ACF?

This is a Wyvern..
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Has come with a small lot of WW2 formation signs, but this is the only one I have failed to identify. I am sure Mike will do, though... :-D
NOT a Wyvern! it has 2 pairs of legs.

(am now retiring to quiet corner for a G&T in order to restore good humour)
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Old 21-07-17, 08:36 PM
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NOT a Wyvern! it has 2 pairs of legs.

(am now retiring to quiet corner for a G&T in order to restore good humour)
sorry, I did not mean to be disrespectful! :-D
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I think it is an older Welsh national Scout Emblem

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Old 21-07-17, 09:00 PM
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South Wales District, Western Command.

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South Wales District, Western Command.

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Indeed, WWII period, one of a few variants.
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sorry, I did not mean to be disrespectful! :-D
Forgiven, now on 2nd (very relaxing) G&T.
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Indeed, WWII period, one of a few variants.
Now, this is where I saw the sign!
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This reminds me that I have always been uncertain about these two signs being - as identified by John Waring - the first pattern sign worn by Carmarthenshire ACF. He described the sign (JW2/F20 as being embroidered on felt and as drawn in the pamphlet has no loop in the dragon's tail. The quality of these signs, the size (Left is 42mm x 37 mm and the Right is 48mm x 35mm) and the difference in dragons' tail makes me think that they were designed for something other than ACF. Has an expert in dragons got any alternative identifications? All suggestions welcomed. Mike
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Second one with curly tail reminds me of the silver anodized collar for Welsh TA RA unit
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This reminds me that I have always been uncertain about these two signs being - as identified by John Waring - the first pattern sign worn by Carmarthenshire ACF. He described the sign (JW2/F20 as being embroidered on felt and as drawn in the pamphlet has no loop in the dragon's tail. The quality of these signs, the size (Left is 42mm x 37 mm and the Right is 48mm x 35mm) and the difference in dragons' tail makes me think that they were designed for something other than ACF. Has an expert in dragons got any alternative identifications? All suggestions welcomed. Mike
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This reminds me that I have always been uncertain about these two signs being - as identified by John Waring - the first pattern sign worn by Carmarthenshire ACF. He described the sign (JW2/F20 as being embroidered on felt and as drawn in the pamphlet has no loop in the dragon's tail. The quality of these signs, the size (Left is 42mm x 37 mm and the Right is 48mm x 35mm) and the difference in dragons' tail makes me think that they were designed for something other than ACF. Has an expert in dragons got any alternative identifications? All suggestions welcomed. Mike
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There is also the difference in the right claw, up or down.

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This reminds me that I have always been uncertain about these two signs being - as identified by John Waring - the first pattern sign worn by Carmarthenshire ACF. He described the sign (JW2/F20 as being embroidered on felt and as drawn in the pamphlet has no loop in the dragon's tail. The quality of these signs, the size (Left is 42mm x 37 mm and the Right is 48mm x 35mm) and the difference in dragons' tail makes me think that they were designed for something other than ACF. Has an expert in dragons got any alternative identifications? All suggestions welcomed. Mike
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Was there not some talk of the left one being scouts in another recent thread with a few examples on ebay
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Was there not some talk of the left one being scouts in another recent thread with a few examples on ebay
Ebay, ebay! You believe what is written on eBay, may the good Tooth Fairy bless you.

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Well actually, someone else on here referred to the similar examples on ebay, though maybe I am a fool for repeating it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Sc...YAAOSw-0xYkglZ
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