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14-03-17, 03:05 PM
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Coloured backing on Officers rank pips and crowns
There seems to be two basic options for the coloured backing on rank insignia.
1. The badge embroidered directly onto the coloured material (shown left in picture). 2. The coloured material added to an existing khaki backed badge. Was type 1 for the new 1949 pattern BD or did it come in earlier? Rob 
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14-03-17, 05:31 PM
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The original khaki & fawn worsted badges were worn in WW1 and continued into WW2. Colour was added in 1940 by the Arm of Service Strip, and for the Officers rank badge backing.
I am not sure when they were made in one piece. Marc
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#3
15-03-17, 08:00 AM
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I've always had it in my head as post 49 for integral coloured backings, but thats just my memory. I'll dig out a few if I remember and have a look. But I have a 49' pattern battledress with integral pip colour for the RF.
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15-03-17, 10:05 AM
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When first introduced for battle dress officers' rank badges were khaki backed as they had been in WWI.
Experience in the BEF showed that they did not show up well and in September 1940 coloured backings in arm of service colours were authorised. Officers who possessed battle dress before 18th September 1940 could have their khaki rank badges mounted on separate pieces of coloured material at public expense. By December 1940 official patterns with the design embroidered directly into a coloured backing had been sealed ‘in order that officers may obtain future requirements from…military outfitters’. A sample of one such badge is attached. It is important to remember that officers bought their own rank badges from the military outfitter of their choice so there is great variation in style. From August 1942 officers’ rank badges – described officially as ‘Badges, Shoulder’ - backed with the colours specified in 1940 were listed in the Stores Vocabulary as being available for issue ‘on repayment…to officers serving at stations overseas’ and were usually available from Officers Shops. The 1949 Catalogue of Clothing and Necessaries extends eligibility for their issue to ‘home stations as specially authorised’. Not everybody liked the backed badges. Some cavalry regiments preferred to wear khaki backed badges, the 4th/7th Dragoon Guards continuing to wear khaki pips with a separate yellow backing well into the post war years. And then of course there is the question of metal rank badges on BD.... Jon Last edited by Postwarden; 15-03-17 at 12:23 PM. Reason: Spelling!
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#5
15-03-17, 10:19 AM
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Thank you Jon.
Rob
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17-04-17, 12:32 PM
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This is an odd crown, could it be Australian, New Zealand or Canadian?
Rob
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17-04-17, 01:32 PM
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Since 4/7 RDG were mentioned, here are the CO's slip-ons. Mike
4.7 RDG.01.jpg
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#8
18-04-17, 07:30 AM
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And of course we have the woven type.
Marc 
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I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards. Last edited by 54Bty; 09-02-22 at 05:34 PM.
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