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Old 30-11-15, 06:07 PM
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I have a set of 1944 pattern shoulder braces which are very unusual in that they have been manufactured in RAF blue grey. They are exactly like the Army olive green version in all other aspects but have no visible markings. Does anyone know if the RAF used 1944 pattern webbing? I can find no reference to it on the web.

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Old 30-11-15, 06:18 PM
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Hi Colin,

As I understand it 44 pattern webbing went on to be used far beyond WWII and by other nations also, including being manufactured abroad, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to find RAF blue example, be they British or from another nation.

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Hi Colin,

As I understand it 44 pattern webbing went on to be used far beyond WWII and by other nations also, including being manufactured abroad, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to find RAF blue example, be they British or from another nation.

Cheers, Roy.
I was first issued 44 pattern webbing in about 1961 , previously we'd had 37 pattern and I never came across 58 pattern until some time in the late 60s early 70s.

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I was issued '37 Pattern at 16 Battalion Bicester (COD Bicester) till 1973 when I was posted to BAOR to 3 BAPD (a base depot) and yet more '37 Pattern. I did not get issued '58 Pattern till 1975 and never was issued '44 Pattern at all.

At COD Bicester I worked in [among others] Section CN (Webbing, Accoutrements and Steel Helmets) for which post war was also issued to the RN & RAF, and as far as I can remember

Post WWII all '37 Webbing was plain cotton drab webbing which was coloured by the end user with blanco (blue for the RAF) and new production went on well into the 80's

Both '44 & '58 Webbing was issued in Green and was only to be washed clean.

'44 Pattern was also produced well into the 80's
'58 Pattern was produced into the very early 90's

The above is for British use I may add!
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Old 30-11-15, 10:19 PM
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Just for the record , the commonly encountered patterns of webbing issued during the 20th century were:-
1908 pattern
1937 pattern
1944 pattern and
1958 pattern.
As far as I know there was never such a beast as either 1938 pattern or 57 pattern unless it's some hybrid creature that I've never heard of !
I was issued with 37 pattern webbing in 1976 and was eventually issued 58 pattern in 1977.
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Old 01-12-15, 05:52 AM
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Default RAF 1944 pattern webbing

Thanks to all who have contributed so far.

I knew that army 1944 pattern webbing was issued after WWII and that Airborne Forces used it in place of 1937 pattern until the arrival of 1958 pattern, and that it was also issued to units in jungle environments until the 1970s. The Army issue being in green webbing. What is strange about the shoulder braces I have is that they are made in RAF blue grey and not blanco-ed. I know that the RAF used 1937 webbing in blue grey after WWII but has anyone else seen any other 1944 Patten items manufactured in blue grey?
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Just for the record , the commonly encountered patterns of webbing issued during the 20th century were:-
1908 pattern
1937 pattern
1944 pattern and
1958 pattern.
As far as I know there was never such a beast as either 1938 pattern or 57 pattern unless it's some hybrid creature that I've never heard of !
I was issued with 37 pattern webbing in 1976 and was eventually issued 58 pattern in 1977.
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There do exist examples of 1944 pattern webbing made commercially for other countries in colours other than jungle green; certain middle eastern states spring to mind. However, I have never seen any examples in RAF blue grey.
The lack of markings (just re-read the original post!) would certainly suggest a commercial contract.
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