Mystery - Wandsworth Cap Badge - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Alan O · #1 30-11-08, 10:45 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=013

I could not help be amazed at this price. It is not in K&K Vol 2. It bears the same arms as the Wandsworth Pals but is either a cadet badge not shown in K&K, a VTC badge (again unrecorded and unlikely as K&K shows 2 examples for Wandsworth) or a municipal badge and not military at all?

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...tryGB%26sa%3DN

The arms of that of Wandsworth Borough Council. Therefore is this the local Emmanuel School OTC or a very expensive Council employees badge?

Sonofacqms · #2 30-11-08, 03:31 PM

As a collector of local OTC badges, (I don't live in London) the buyer is in my opinion an experienced collector/dealer who sells badges on ebay which are, as he says 100% original.
This may well have been the badge he needed to fill a gap in his collection, it is not a badge that I crave for, but if that's your gap filler, then buy it. We only pass this way once, so treat yourself, life's short . . !

Peter Brydon · #3 30-11-08, 07:43 PM

Some Wandsworth Cadet units mentioned in Rawlings and in Westlake ( Territorial Force Cadet units 1910-1922) including interesting references to WANDSWORTH SCOTTISH CADET CORPS but nothing that positively identifies this badge. Look forward to see if anyone can add anything.

P.B.

Alan O · #4 30-11-08, 07:46 PM

A further check of K&K Vol 2 shows that it is not the Wandsworth based Emmanuel School as their OTC badge was considerably different. It does not look Scottish in any way and the sldier is all wrong for Scottish headgear of course.

Best bet seems to be Wandsworth Grammar School. I can as yet find no record of an School OTC though.

Alan

Peter Brydon · #5 30-11-08, 07:52 PM

Alan,
I did not think for one moment it was anything to do with the Wandsworth Scottish, I was just very interested to learn that there was such a unit .
Peter

Viletone · #6 01-12-08, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Owen

A further check of K&K Vol 2 shows that it is not the Wandsworth based Emmanuel School as their OTC badge was considerably different. It does not look Scottish in any way and the sldier is all wrong for Scottish headgear of course.

Best bet seems to be Wandsworth Grammar School. I can as yet find no record of an School OTC though.

Alan

These were the exact searches I carried out when the badge was first listed as I thought it to be a Wandsworth VTC. There are two similiar and I would be very suprised to find the borough had three different. Spencer Park school is another possibility but whether of not it was Grammar or even existed at the time is another matter.

I'd like to think it's a municipal badge just so the buyer (also an ebay dealer/seller) has got stung for not doing the research!

Alan O · #7 01-12-08, 01:33 PM

I agree about the VTC badge. It is most unusual for there to have been 2 patterns and both of those state VTc in their design. The chances of there being a third type are remote.

I have looked through all of the stuff on line about the Grammar School, including a prospectus advertsiing its facilities, and can find no record of an OTC. 8th Foot furnished me with an article on OTCs written at the time of their existance pre-war and there is no mention of it either. The article did say that it did not show some small OTCs mind you.

The possibility that it was a tramways or some sort of municipal badge is seeming to be getting stronger.

I don not have the chapter on OTCs in Reginald Coxes book - can anyone confirm that it is not shown in Coxes book at all?

Alan