South Irish Horse

[Rockape]

Many thanks Doug. I would tend to agree the one I have was worn on clothing. Perhaps mess dress collars allowed for the slider fixing?

Gaz

[phaethon]

Hello all,

I found today this cap badge from the market seller's junk box and I was wondering is it any good? I can see one of these sold on the Whytes auction for €100 (lot 176) - http://www.whytes.ie/i81FrameLeft.as...924&offset=160

Reverse and lugs surely looks different. Perhaps fixing job? If it is not good, no worries - I got it almost for nothing.

[Tinto]

Hi Phaeton,
I'm surprised no one has replied to your query.
Your badge does look like the pre-1908 South Irish Horse but I cannot say whether genuine or not.
Cheers, Tinto

[Chipper]

Hi All,

looking for an opinion on this. Something I picked up a while ago, but as time goes on, I am just not sure. The ones I have seen here generally have thicker letters and nicer looking veins, so to speak.

Love to hear opinions.

Regards, Tim

PS, can get better pics if needed, just snapped these with my phone.

[LONGSHANKS]

Hi Tim.

I have to say for me anyway, it's not a good one. The depth of the strike isn't what it should be and the slider looks like a much later period of design. You need something more like this.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=86299

Regards

Simon.

[Rockape]

Greetings Tim,

Here is what you should look for...Deep veins, thick edge and smooth stalk (pic attached).

Garry

[LONGSHANKS]

Here's possibly a war produced one Tim, based on the slider being a ribbon steel with hand round tip. The other one I showed you I would say post war up to 1922 when disbanded.

And as Garry said, well defined and a depth to the strike.

Simon.

[Chipper]

Thanks to both of you. I was actually having a look at yours, Simon, which started my doubts about mine.

Always good to weed out duds from the collection! (as much as it hurts!)

Cheers Lads.

[LONGSHANKS]

No problem Tim. Sorry about yours, it is a scarce and due to this a heavily faked badge, hence the price I set for the one I have up for sale.

Keep on hunting.

Regards
Simon.

[irish]

Would the SIH "Shamrock" cap badge be the same size as the collars? I am looking at one on a vendors site. He has listed as a cap badge measuring approx 32mm with lugs E and W. I feel it is a collar. Would like to hear what others think. The use of lugs are also giving me some pause, as it is being described as WW1 vintage

Thanks
Jack.

[Rockape]

Dear Irish,

Yes generally speaking the collars have the same dimensions as the cap badge and early issues were on loops. Can you paste a URL link to the page or alternatively pm me with the link?

Garry

[mule-73k]

Jack,
South Irish Horse badges are a minefield! You really need to have it in your hands to make a decision, and then..........

My buddy's grandfather was in the SIH and stated that he never had a set of collars! He was in the Retreat from Mons.......

Dave

[irish]

Originally Posted by Rockape

Dear Irish,

Yes generally speaking the collars have the same dimensions as the cap badge and early issues were on loops. Can you paste a URL link to the page or alternatively pm me with the link?

Garry

Thanks Garry,, sent a PM.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mule-73k

Jack,
South Irish Horse badges are a minefield! You really need to have it in your hands to make a decision, and then..........

My buddy's grandfather was in the SIH and stated that he never had a set of collars! He was in the Retreat from Mons.......

Dave

Thanks Dave, it looks good and came off a belt with some other rather nice pieces. I have seen plenty of re-do's but not a good one lately.

[Rockape]

Jack,

Thanks for the p.m. The badge is similar to the photos shown by Grevisk in this post (#38)

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...h+horse&page=3

I also have three of these which was a collection of cap, collars and other items including the rare Officers Mess Dress collar, all from the same gentleman who served as an officer with the South Irish Horse.

Garry