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Old 27-09-17, 01:47 PM
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btns, I believe they were generic for capes in general. However, the nursings sisters did have a unique belt buckle.
Thank you. I have been searching the internet and found plenty of military(!) pictures for these lion-head cloak clasps. All are WWI Canadian nurses.
A general search shows that these clasps were used by police forces from the Victorian period onwards. May I now assume that the Canadian Nurse's cape origins is a Police cape?
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I don't think so. It is more likely they were modelled or copied from some imperial nursing service.
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Blackadder, I would like to see some evidence of them wearing the cap badge. The uniform we had did not have headdress other than the "veil" and it was not adorned with a cap badge. The QMAAC and WAAC did wear distinctive headdress that had a badge. Checking Taboika and online references, there is no evidence of a cap badge in wear. Nursing sisters wore the distinctive tunic during the First WW and did not have headdress that was suitable for badges in my understanding. The only example of one on unofficial headdress is the one in the image from the VAC.
The only distinctive mark I could find on the "veil" was the Red Cross.
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Two Canadian nursing sisters. Taken in December 1917, on the roof of the offices of the Department of Information, 8 Buckingham Gate, London.





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Two members of the Canadian Army Medical Corps Nursing Service. The photograph shows the service and mess uniforms. Taken in December 1917, on the roof of the offices of the Department of Information, 8 Buckingham Gate, London.

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Jo, did you see Blackadders previous post? He linked several images that show the cap badge in wear.
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Jo, did you see Blackadders previous post? He linked several images that show the cap badge in wear.
Yes I did. I wanted to show the cape in wear by a Canadian NS and the working uniform worn in 1st WW.
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Thank you. I have been searching the internet and found plenty of military(!) pictures for these lion-head cloak clasps. All are WWI Canadian nurses.
A general search shows that these clasps were used by police forces from the Victorian period onwards. May I now assume that the Canadian Nurse's cape origins is a Police cape?
I would think that highly unlikely. Nurses uniforms (generically nurses and not just military nursing uniforms) evolved from the roots of nursing. Nuns (where do you think the title of "sister" came from) were among the first organized nursing groups and there is probably some influence there. You could throw in some influence from Florence Nightingale and what her women wore as well as the evolution of nurses' working clothing that included cloaks as an outer garment (also a common outer garment for women in general in the 1800s and early 1900s) that continued up to more recent times (see Call the Midwife). The origin may be as simple as "nurses wore cloaks/capes, so the CAMC nurses' uniform should include a cape".
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Are these Nursing Sisters collars or officers RCAMS collars? The picture really doesn't show but the scroll is frosted silver.

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Mike, with the pin backs, these have been attributed to Nursing officers.
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