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#1
19-11-23, 01:22 PM
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Georgian Cross belt plate?
This oval plate with what appears No 1 was found in a field near to Stone Staffordshire.
It has the appearance of a cross belt plate do others concur there was a militia in the town and Yeomanry in the 1790’s Stone went on to have firstly militia, rifle volunteers,volunteer battalions territorial up to WW2 I am quite excited by this item so need others eyes , I have seen other belt plates with four wires to the rear. Regards Stephen 
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19-11-23, 06:02 PM
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Looks like a cross belt plate. Could there have been some other badge or insignis attached at the opening? Is it brass, as I've never seen a black cross belt plate before?
Terry
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#3
19-11-23, 06:14 PM
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Hi Stephen, sadly I think it’s not a cross belt plate, the four fixings on the back look like a wire fixing. It could turn out to be from horse furniture, as the shape is also correct.
Would love to here others comments
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#4
19-11-23, 08:11 PM
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Terry Norfolk man,
Terry hope it is clearer from the side image the number 1 is proud of the plate and not recessed. Norfolk there are several examples of belt plates having wires and bend over pins when you take a look at cross belt plates in general of this period I have a feeling this is 1770’s period hence it being very plane looking, I believe Bronze or Brass there is a green tinge to the patina. Regards Stephen Last edited by yorkstone; 19-11-23 at 08:34 PM.
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20-11-23, 01:21 AM
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Steve,
I see now, it is not a hole in the plate, but a raised number 1. Horse furniture of belt plate is is still cool!!! Terry
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#7
20-11-23, 10:43 AM
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Struggling to see this as a CBP and would be very surprised if that’s what it is.
The off-centre ‘1’ clearly isn’t a 1. Btns suggestion of a gothic U seems more fitting. Having four fixings and their position doesn’t look like the late 18th and early 19th century CBPs I’ve seen, but admittedly I’m no expect.
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#8
20-11-23, 02:43 PM
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Luke Btns,
Many thanks see attached looks to be a gothic 1 (one) as you can see from attached images many variants Either way an interesting item worthy of further research also a thought a stylised I was used to indicate Infantry around this time seen on buttons! Image three is very close however points on opposite side! Regards Stephen Last edited by yorkstone; 20-11-23 at 03:56 PM.
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#9
20-11-23, 03:09 PM
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Not wishing to hi-jack the thread, but some similarity to this plate albeit showing crossed cannon barrels etc?
No provenance to this item other than that it was found by a detectorist in the East Midlands / South Yorkshire. https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ight=Artillery If this is a red herring I'll delete this post.
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20-11-23, 05:19 PM
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I do not know any gothic numbers with "thorns" edited: the proper name for these are 'spurs' best regards, Last edited by btns; 20-11-23 at 06:43 PM. Reason: found name 'spur'
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