Naval Button Anchor and "??????? STEAM PACKETS"(?)

[leigh kitchen]

Can anyone identify this button please?
It appears to be of brass, I don't know if it was originally domed, it measures about 3/4" / 20 mm across.

The wording on the front may possibly be a series of initials above "STEAM PACKETS".

[Buttonman]

I can't make out much from the photo but if you say there is STEAM PACKETS on it then the letters above could be L.B.& S.C. Ry. for the LONDON BRIGHTON & SOUTH COAST RAILWAY. Their Steam Packets sailed between Newhaven and Dieppe. I've only ever seen a line drawing of this button, is there the remains of a maker's mark on the back?

David.

[leigh kitchen]

Thanks, your suggestion may very well fit the billI, I'll have another close look at the button.
There is a maker's mark on the back, I can't make it out, but having another look I think it includes "HALESOWEN".

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Buttonman

I can't make out much from the photo but if you say there is STEAM PACKETS on it then the letters above could be L.B.& S.C. Ry. for the LONDON BRIGHTON & SOUTH COAST RAILWAY. Their Steam Packets sailed between Newhaven and Dieppe. I've only ever seen a line drawing of this button, is there the remains of a maker's mark on the back?

David.

Found one described as :

LONDON BRIGHTON SOUTH COASTS Railway MARINE DEPT UNIFORM BUTTON

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[leigh kitchen]

Brilliant, thanks chaps, that's another one identified.
A different manufacturers mark to the one I have, not that I can work out what mark it has, and my "HALESOWEN" speculation may well be wrong.

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

Brilliant, thanks chaps, that's another one identified.
A different manufacturers mark to the one I have, not that I can work out what mark it has, and my "HALESOWEN" speculation may well be wrong.

Both Firmin & Son and Grove & Sons produced buttons with HALESOWEN back marks.

NZ Rifle Brigade, Stokes & Sons Melb
NZ Rifle Brigade (with RB) Firmin & Son Halesowen
NZ Rifle Brigade (without RB) Grove & Sons Halesowen

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...43&postcount=4

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[leigh kitchen]

Ta, I was aware of the Groves Halesowen but not the Firmin Halesowen marks.