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Old 01-08-15, 10:14 AM
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I'm not sure it's Firmin & Sons as I've never seen it as F&S. The stamp F&S was found on RLI Queens crown officer's badges made from silver and with the hallmarks of Birmingham. My belief is that the F&S stamp for silver was actually Fattorini & Sons Ltd.
I have also been unable to find that Firmin and Sons actually made silver badges.
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Hi I have 21 a/a badges with this makers mark on them see my site chris
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I'm not sure it's Firmin & Sons as I've never seen it as F&S. The stamp F&S was found on RLI Queens crown officer's badges made from silver and with the hallmarks of Birmingham. My belief is that the F&S stamp for silver was actually Fattorini & Sons Ltd.
I have also been unable to find that Firmin and Sons actually made silver badges.
Hi Peter,

There are lots of modern F&S marked badges in original Firmin & Sons packaging about.

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F&S is very modern and seen on today's issued badges and is Firmin.
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Old 02-08-15, 12:30 AM
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F&S is very modern and seen on today's issued badges and is Firmin.
My comment was regarding silver badges where the F&S mark was used by Fattorini & Sons since 1903.
http://www.silvercollection.it/ENGLAFATTORINI.html

Whether this mark or similar was used by Firmin on non silver items I don't know as I have not been able to find any info that Firmin made sterling badges.

I have written to both Firmin and Fattorini to seek clarification.

This badge was made in 1962 and I have another one that was made 1961.

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Fattorini uses a single "F&S" mark, Firmin three separate as on your badge? "F" "&" "S". I don't think Fattorini ever made official Army badges?

Rgds, Thomas.

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Default Firmin, Fattorini, Silver, Sterling and all that

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IF THE BADGE IS A FULLY HALLMARKED BADGE SHOWING 'F&S' AND THE ANCHOR FOR BIRMINGHAM IT IS NOT A FIRMIN & SON BADGE.

THE ONLY SILVERSMITH IN BIRMINGHAM WITH A REGISTERED MARK OF 'F&S' IS THE FIRM OF FATTORINI & SON.

THIS ONLY APPLIES TO SOLID HALLMARKED SILVER BADGES.

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Old 26-01-17, 08:13 AM
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See the attachment in post number four.

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IF THE BADGE IS A FULLY HALLMARKED BADGE SHOWING 'F&S' AND THE ANCHOR FOR BIRMINGHAM IT IS NOT A FIRMIN & SON BADGE.

THE ONLY SILVERSMITH IN BIRMINGHAM WITH A REGISTERED MARK OF 'F&S' IS THE FIRM OF FATTORINI & SON.

THIS ONLY APPLIES TO SOLID HALLMARKED SILVER BADGES.

HAPPY TO STAND CORRECTED

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Old 26-01-17, 06:45 PM
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Hi Guys,

My Southmead Hospital Nursing badge, given to me by the Hospital in Bristol when I qualified there as a Staff Nurse in 1980, has on the back:

THOMAS FATTORINI
REGENT ST
BIRMINGHAM

and also these associated hallmarks:

Anchor
Lion
'E'

There is also the jewellers mark of:

'TF'

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