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09-06-17, 09:37 AM
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unknown eagle badge
hi all
im not an airforce aficionado so im just putting this out there. does anyone know who and what this eagle is? it came with a bunch of WW2 RAAF items thanks in advance bC 
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09-06-17, 10:15 AM
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 09-06-17 at 11:05 AM.
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09-06-17, 11:00 AM
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thanks Griff
just shows how much help i need bc
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09-06-17, 02:16 PM
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09-06-17, 02:57 PM
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#7
22-06-17, 02:44 PM
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Hi all the Royal Air Force do not wear an Eagle and never have, they wear an Albatross on the shoulder flash and on the cap badge. Scots grey
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#8
22-06-17, 02:49 PM
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In heraldic terms it is: "In front of a circle inscribed with the motto Per Ardua Ad Astra and ensigned by the Imperial Crown an eagle volant and affronty Head lowered and to the sinister."
Although there have been debates among airmen over the years whether the bird was originally meant to be an albatross or an eagle, the consensus is that it was always an eagle.
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22-06-17, 04:03 PM
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Duh! Mistaken post
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22-06-17, 04:31 PM
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This is an eagle... hooked beak. The badge at the start of the thread does not have a hooked beak.
 Also ... "Pathfinder" wings, from Gaunt, below.
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 22-06-17 at 04:37 PM.
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22-06-17, 05:38 PM
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Hello,
may be cap badge of French Air Force
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22-06-17, 07:08 PM
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From the official Royal Air Force site. At an Air Council meeting on 1 August 1918, a badge for adoption by the Royal Air Force was approved. The badge adopted was similar in design to the one used today with the exception that the circlet surrounding the eagle comprised a garter and a buckle. The badge was not submitted at any time to the King or to the College of Arms for approval. In May 1925, the College of Arms was asked to prepare coloured sketches of the badge, it being stipulated that whilst the details of the approved badge should stand, any modification of mere drawing, e.g. the eagle's body and the sprig of laurel, could be left to them [the College]. The College of Arms produced a colour drawing which was placed on file. The question of improving the badge was again raised in May 1941, the feeling being that a more war-like eagle might perhaps be adopted. However, nothing was changed. So far as can be ascertained, the design registered with the College of Arms in 1923 is still the official badge of the Royal Air Force, and although a version in heraldic colours (with some artistic licence) was produced in 1925 (mainly in connection with Royal Air Force drums), it seems never to have been intended that it should replace the original black and white drawing, except, perhaps where it was necessary to produce a badge in colour. Marc
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22-06-17, 08:09 PM
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The bird in the original post is most definitely not an albatross. The wings are all wrong for an albatross, the tail feathers are all wrong for an albatross, the body is all wrong for an albatross and most obvious of all, the beak is all wrong for an albatross. That short, pointed beak is absolutely nothing like the long, thick, humped and slightly hooked beak of the albatross. Mind you, it doesn't look much like an eagle either with that beak.
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22-06-17, 10:05 PM
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Hi Chaps
I have all ways considered it to be an albatross this is why : The 1st Picture shows the beak of a golden eagle the 2nd picture shows the beak of the albatross note the length of the beaks in each in image when looking at this badge one should look at the history of the RAF as the bird in question came from the royal navy ( RNAS ) who used a albatross which has along beak with a hook at the end during WWII this was changed to make it as stated more fierce but the beak size and shape never changed . http://animals.sandiegozoo.org/sites...n_eagel_01.jpg http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/...mage/157562641
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