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Old 10-01-08, 02:04 PM
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Hi Alan
I thought about RA but then the spurs and riding crop put me off plus it looks like there is 3 letters in the shoulder title.

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Old 10-01-08, 02:09 PM
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Here are some closer pictures.
Could it be royal field atrillery???

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Spurs are quite normal for the RA at the time to drag the guns about. It could be RHA or RFA as both were mounted.

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RFA In both photo's both clearly have ball topped Helmets The mounted one with the light collars was common with AV it is not so easy to ID the exact unit with these pics as they are, and without any history. A thread counter would sort it out for you.
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Sorry, what is 'AV'
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Thank you....another piece of the jigsaw (the last) is attached. He is the Sergeant on the RH side, clearly in the RA in France. Where the mounted stint was in the previous pic I do not know.
Well that is unequivocally RA so whether he was in the ASC before (I believe so from the mounted pic) will require further research. It was not unusual for Regular reservists to be moved between different parts of the Army over the period 1914-19, especially when wounded and unfit for infantry service (interestingly both Sgts on right side have distinctive brass 'wound stripes' on left arm indicating they have each been wounded twice). Other Arms had varying requirements of medical fitness (as they do now). Have you tried searching out his war record (many were destroyed in the Blitz but surviving copies are available online) or the medal roll (much easier and complete)? It is notable that he (and others too) is also wearing medal ribbons and I can identify the 1914/15 star ribbon on his tunic and there may well be othesr that cannot bee seen because of the quality of the repro. They look to me as if they are in Best Tunics (note 'pristine' white RA lanyards and ribbons were rarely worn in the front line) and it is therefore unlikely to be France unless at some kind of 'Review' in a rear area. My supposition is that this is back in UK and may even be at the end of the war, or just after. When was he demobbed (discharged)?

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Can anyone identify the second picture as i think the first one is Cameron Highlanders and also maybe put a date to them both.

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Interesting pics. I place the first pic at around 1905 and Queens Own Cameron Highlanders (only Reg Infantry Regt to have just a single battalion, all others had 2, most common, or 4). He is wearing 'drummers lace' (so was in the Pipes and Drums) around collar and cuffs, a 1903 pattern leather belt and is wearing a Cameron Highlanders Glengarry (with no dicing, unlike the other Highlander Regts, except for Black Watch who usually wore a Bonnet, although their band and pipes and drums wore a similar Glengarry). The second pic I believe to be RHA and around 1900, as he appears to have the ball (shaped) buttons used to distinguish that 'elite' branch of the RA from its (considered by the RHA) more pedestrian brethren. The Wolsey (not Pith, or Solar Topee worn later) helmet with its RA badge and Ball top is very clear and worn by the RA and RFA as well. The 3 letter shoulder title makes clear it is RFA, or RHA. It is also clear that he was in the RA before he went to the Highlanders as he has only one good conduct stripe with RA, but has achieved both a second conduct stripe and a Lance Corporal's chevron in the Highlanders.

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Many thanks Alan & Toby for your input that is most helpful information.

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Sorry, what is 'AV'
Artillery Volunteers. Sometimes A.V.C rarely V.A.

The light Collars where quite common for Artillery of this period. The Helmet badge shape isn't plain, I couldn't see the star shape Toby mentioned... but I think he may be onto something with this mounted guy not being RA.
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Artillery Volunteers. Sometimes A.V.C rarely V.A.

The light Collars where quite common for Artillery of this period. The Helmet badge shape isn't plain, I couldn't see the star shape Toby mentioned... but I think he may be onto something with this mounted guy not being RA.
Am referring to earlier pic where he is mounted and holding his helmet under his arm. You can see quite clearly that it is a 'universal star' helmet plate, which was not worn by the RA. There's was a coat of arms with gun in relief.
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Many thanks for the excellent help on these pages , am now 'scrolling' the medal roll as Toby suggested. Fascinating.
With all the permutations in the name, rank, unit, number scenario in the early part of the 20th century , there is a strong case for a bar-code or 'chip' implant in the future......perhaps a little too far?
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Many thanks for the excellent help on these pages , am now 'scrolling' the medal roll as Toby suggested. Fascinating.
With all the permutations in the name, rank, unit, number scenario in the early part of the 20th century , there is a strong case for a bar-code or 'chip' implant in the future......perhaps a little too far?
Important to note that at that time each Regt/Corp was allocated its own block of numbers. This meant that every time a soldier changed Regt/Corps he was issued with a new number, but of course his personal details (name., inits, date of birth etc) remained the same.

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