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Old 17-09-11, 12:06 AM
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Hello Rob,

Being 'Generation X', I don't remember the 1950s... what is it, please?

Seriously though, do you think that the named sliders were very probably just as prevalent in the Fifties, but with (possibly) fewer collectors and a distict absence of the Information Superhighway, the badge-collecting fraternity was just not as exposed to what was out there as we are nowadays?

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Generation X, first time I've seen them mentioned for a while. Billy Idol, W and anchor spring to mind.
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Old 17-09-11, 07:22 AM
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I would recommend that any Gaunt badge with a plaque is carefully looked at as a genuine plaque is no guarantee that the badge is. Not only have fake plaques been made but alos genuine plaques have been removed from low value badges and put on fakes. RND is most vulnerable to this practice.
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Old 17-09-11, 08:37 AM
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I would recommend that any Gaunt badge with a plaque is carefully looked at as a genuine plaque is no guarantee that the badge is. Not only have fake plaques been made but alos genuine plaques have been removed from low value badges and put on fakes. RND is most vulnerable to this practice.
Thanks, Alan. I don't suppose you would have an example to post, by any chance?

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Generation X, first time I've seen them mentioned for a while. Billy Idol, W and anchor spring to mind.
Keith,

Agreed... a bit of a Jim Morrison wannabe, and (hypocritically) way too old to be genuine Generation X, having been born in 1955. Wasn't Ray Manzarek their manager at some point?

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Old 17-09-11, 11:09 AM
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Thanks for the reply Peter,

I also have a cast bronze badge with a Firmin tablet which is very similar to the Gaunt version and I hope is a good one. The blades have broken off and a replacement brass slider has been soldered to it.
Although it is not a Gaunt tablet, I hope it shows an example of a cast badge with a separate tablet added by the maker. I tend to agree with Whizzbang in his reply, and would imagine it would be simpler to cast the name onto the badge rather than attach a separate plate.

Is there a period of time when the tablets were attached to the badges ?

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Old 17-09-11, 11:12 AM
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I suppose there's a chance of early badge engineering. Buying bulk from a sub contractor due to higher demand.

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Old 17-09-11, 05:39 PM
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Peter ,I picked this up bargain today not sure if it's a good un or not, nice badge but i broke off the slider trying to get a good picture of the tablet for you

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Old 17-09-11, 05:46 PM
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Peter ,I picked this up bargain today not sure if it's a good un or not, nice badge but i broke off the slider trying to get a good picture of the tablet for you
Ouch! Sorry to hear that, Andy. Thank you for posting the image, and your sacrifice is duly noted, sir.

Was it another 'less-than-a-fiver' purchase though?

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PS - What's the badge?
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Old 17-09-11, 05:53 PM
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not saying how much but heres the badge

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not saying how much but heres the badge
Blimey! There's a thing! Never seen one of those before.
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Thanks for the reply Peter,

I also have a cast bronze badge with a Firmin tablet which is very similar to the Gaunt version and I hope is a good one. The blades have broken off and a replacement brass slider has been soldered to it.
Although it is not a Gaunt tablet, I hope it shows an example of a cast badge with a separate tablet added by the maker. I tend to agree with Whizzbang in his reply, and would imagine it would be simpler to cast the name onto the badge rather than attach a separate plate.

Is there a period of time when the tablets were attached to the badges ?

Regards Alan Y.

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Thanks, Alan, nice to see your badge.

I can only conclude that it was perhaps more cost-effective for a manufacturer to add their name plate later, rather than to cast it into the badge.

In terms of quality, the Gaunt tablets are a million miles away from the badges they are attached to - perhaps it was just easier and cheaper to do it this way. I can't help but feel that if it was easier for them to cast it into the badge, that they would have done so. Just a thought .

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Old 18-09-11, 06:33 PM
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Hi Peter,

If you look at the Gaunt section in the maker's mark gallery (link below) you can see that tablet's were the exception! All the cast badges shown either have a cast-in mark or a stamped mark!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/makers_marks/gaunt.htm

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Hi Peter,

If you look at the Gaunt section in the maker's mark gallery (link below) you can see that tablet's were the exception! All the cast badges shown either have a cast-in mark or a stamped mark!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/makers_marks/gaunt.htm

Cheers, Ian.
Yes indeed, Ian. Many thanks for that.

Peter
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Old 18-09-11, 07:17 PM
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Hi, Ian

I like the idea of reunion badges. So when would these badges have been made? The one that I saw looked new so I suspect that it is of modern manufacture. Any chance of seeing your badge front and back please?

Andy
Hi Andy - here you go. Cheers, Ian.
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Old 18-09-11, 09:16 PM
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I am glad to see there is always the exception that proves the rule. I have an absolutely genuine Royal Artillery small beret badge with a dot before the london and it is of a different size to those listed in the maker's gallery as it measures 12mm by 1mm. I attach four images of this badge (I hope, as first time I have tried this)CIMG9663.jpg

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It is absolutely genuine.
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Old 18-09-11, 10:32 PM
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Question RND

Hi, I recently saw a RND badge for sale with the JR Gaunt tablet and loops. It was reasonably priced and I was very tempted. Luckily I had a reference book with me showing the front and rear of original Gaunt badges. The badge had poor definition and irregular voids, it also felt light and its colour was wrong. In my mind it was a definite restrike. Therefore I suspect that the forgers are now reproducing RND badges with Gaunt tablets. I also agree that their is a huge increase in the number of badges appearing with maker marked sliders.

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