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Old 15-10-17, 05:05 PM
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Default Royal Irish Rangers mystery

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Attached is a RIR brassard, what is the patch? It's not 107 Bde and it's not like most NI Brigade badges I've seen?
Grey Green Acorn suggests ACF, any other ideas?
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Old 15-10-17, 06:02 PM
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Maybe a Battalion flash, similar to the one sent out in Gulf War 1, and maybe the reason it was sent.

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Old 16-10-17, 03:45 AM
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Hi,

First, it looks like a Canadian Brassard, is there velcro at the top? Second,

all I see is a shamrock, no acorn in sight. Badges appear new compared to brassard,so looks made up.

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Old 16-10-17, 07:04 AM
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"Grey Green Acorn" refers to a forum member, not part of the badge design...........

A Canadian brassard "souvenired" during training in Canada?
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I am reasonably sure that the ROYAL IRISH RANGERS white on piper green embroidered cloth shoulder title was/is only worn on a brassard by some Army Cadet Force detachments in Northern Ireland.
Bear in mind that the Royal Irish Rangers were formed in 1968 (post Battle Dress so no need for cloth titles) and amalgamated with the Ulster Defence Regiment in 1992 to form the Royal Irish Regiment. There are plenty of pictures of 1 R IRISH during the first Gulf War (1991) and no evidence of cloth titles being worn with desert dpm uniform.
The shamrock badge is harder to explain, it looks 'home made' but is similar to the current TRF. The other possibility for the brassard is that it related to 4/5 RANGERS (V) the TA Battalion in Northern Ireland that is now 2 R IRISH of the Army reserve.
There seem to be a few Forum Members with NI local knowledge who may be more able to resolve this mystery.

Tim

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Old 16-10-17, 09:42 AM
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The shoulder designation was added to the COSA circa 1971.

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Territorial and affiliated cadet units kept Battledress longer than the Regulars, I always thought this was why there were cloth titles for new Regiments in the late 1960's, we've all seen them including RCT
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Old 16-10-17, 01:51 PM
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The RCT tile was worn on battle dress which was still quite widely worn when the Corps was formed.

As has been said quite a few of these titles were made for ACF units.

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Default ROYAL IRISH RANGERS cloth shoulder title

As a follow up I have found two entries in COSA 1984 as follows:

Badge Organisation. Arm/Shoulder R Irish embroidered green on white (mistake?)
R Irish Other Ranks NSN 8566-99-132-2461

Title Shoulder. Cloth embroidered white on rifle green. R IRISH
Motif. 'ACF' all ranks NSN 8455-99-132-2462

Noting the consecutive NSNs is it (more) likely that it was intended that ACF was to be worn with ROYAL IRISH RANGERS ?

However, as discussed in earlier posts perhaps ROYAL IRISH RANGERS was introduced in 1971 and intended to be worn on Battle Dress by the TA Battalions which were part of the North Irish Militia retitled Rangers on 1 July 1970?


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