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Old 18-09-12, 06:43 AM
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Default Various patches for I.D. help

I have aquired the various cloth patches shown over the last few months and am unable, as of yet, to I.D. them. Can any member help?

1. Civil Defence? Industrial Civil Defence Service
2. Something to do with Royal Marines? Canadian WO1
3. French? Regiment de Hussars (not quite sure about this one)
4. French? Regiment d'infanterie, nco's
5. Gurkha, but when and unit. Probably Fantasy
6. Yeomany collar badge? Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry collar badge
7. Swaziland?

Any help appreciated
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Old 18-09-12, 08:56 AM
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Your badge number 1 is the postwar breast pocket badge of the Industrial Civil Defence Service. This consisted of CD units raised by large companies to protect their staff and premises in war.

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Old 18-09-12, 09:14 AM
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The second is a Canadian WO Class 1 badge.
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Old 18-09-12, 09:25 AM
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No 5 - Extensive research by several collectors has failed to identify a British Gurkhas-associated formation sign in that colour. The example shown is a. unidentified b. a modern product and c. probably a fantasy patch

No 6. Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry collar badge? A similar drab colouted one was worn on BD.
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Old 18-09-12, 09:48 AM
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Hi,

The ICDS patch was also worn on a black beret, despite the large size, I believe.

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Old 18-09-12, 01:10 PM
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# 3, Regiment de Hussars (not quite sure about this one)
# 4, Regiment d'infanterie, nco's

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Old 18-09-12, 04:42 PM
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Your badge number 1 is the postwar breast pocket badge of the Industrial Civil Defence Service. This consisted of CD units raised by large companies to protect their staff and premises in war.

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No so at all!
It was manned entirely by civil servants. I was Rescue Squad Leader, all my large team were Met.Office civil servants. Our remit was NOT site-specific, we had several Green Goddesses and heavy lift and could have been deployed anywhere Harrow Wealdstone area. I still have the badges.

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Old 18-09-12, 04:43 PM
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The second is a Canadian WO Class 1 badge.
and note the confusion over wind direction.
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Old 18-09-12, 08:23 PM
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Grumpy's comments made me go back and check my source which was the Home Office's Civil Defence Industrial Bulletin No2 The Industrial Civil Defence Service published in 1953.

This refers to the proposal that Civil Defence should be organised "in those factories, shops and business premises, and premises occupied by Government Departments, the nationalised industries, public utilities, Local Authorities etc in the major built up areas in which more than 200 people were employed". Such organised units - the formation of which was voluntary -were to constitute the Industrial Civil Defence Service which would work in co-operation with the Civil Defence Corps organised by local authorities.

Government departments would undoubtedly have formed such units but I'd be interested to know how many ICDS units were formed elsewhere.

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Old 18-09-12, 11:30 PM
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To add to what Jo had for this one 3#

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Old 19-09-12, 12:54 AM
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The second is a Canadian WO Class 1 badge.
Given the backing, thread colour and embroidery, I would say it is post-unification. Therefore it is correctly the badge for a Chief Warrant Officer/Chief Petty Officer First Class.

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The 34 th Infantry Regiment was disbanded in 1945 but existed as a reserve regiment in the 70s, 80s and 90s. So we may well have a NCO's losange badge of this unit.
The other badge is in the colours of Hussards. But it is not from a regiment as it is lacking a number. Maybe an individual Hussard assigned to a school or a QG unit.
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The 34 th Infantry Regiment was disbanded in 1945 but existed as a reserve regiment in the 70s, 80s and 90s. So we may well have a NCO's losange badge of this unit.
The other badge is in the colours of Hussards. But it is not from a regiment as it is lacking a number. Maybe an individual Hussard assigned to a school or a QG unit.
Speaking for myself.....thanks for the infos.

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Thanks to everone for all their help

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