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Old 19-06-23, 01:51 AM
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Hi,

These A/A badges are not in the best shape or the pictures.

Some have a maker's name and others have lugs missing.

I'd be interested to learn if they are fake or original.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

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Old 19-06-23, 07:45 AM
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The Liverpool Pals badge is undoubtably a fake made by AZIM of Pakistan.

See https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4318

May I please add the images to the Album?

Tim
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Old 19-06-23, 07:55 AM
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All the other badges look to be genuine as are the maker’s marks. The Grove Mark on the Royal Artillery beret badge is an early and fairly scarce one. There are some anodised cap badges, usually without a maker’s mark, made as ‘Unofficial Commissions’ well after the currency of the genuine badge and these tend to be of 1950s Cavalry and Infantry badges.

Genuine badges made to MOD contract after 2011 should not have a maker’s mark.

Smaller badges with a single lug are collar badges. Castle over 5DG is a shoulder title. There is little evidence so far of anodised collar badges or shoulder titles that are not genuine.

Anodised badges that are badly scratched or damaged or with broken or missing sliders or lugs have little value unless a very scarce badge. They are almost impossible to repair but can be used mounted (glued) onto something.

A big subject as anodised cap and collar badges have been around for some 70+ years since being introduced in the early 1950s. Actually issued and in use longer than brass, gilding metal, white metal and bi-metal badges which mainly date from the early 1900s and were mostly superseded by anodised by the late 1960s.

I have many examples of anodised cap and collar badges in my Albums for comparison.

Infantry = https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4432

Support Arms & Services = https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=3826

Cavalry & Yeomanry = https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4433

Collar Badges = https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=3279

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Old 20-06-23, 07:03 AM
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The Liverpool Pals badge is undoubtably a fake made by AZIM of Pakistan.

See https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=4318

May I please add the images to the Album?

Tim
Hello Tim,

You're welcome to use whatever pictures you like, as I tried to take some better pictures of the Liverpool Pals, but they just don't look the best

Cheers,

Invest
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All the other badges look to be genuine as are the maker’s marks. The Grove Mark on the Royal Artillery beret badge is an early and fairly scarce one. There are some anodised cap badges, usually without a maker’s mark, made as ‘Unofficial Commissions’ well after the currency of the genuine badge and these tend to be of 1950s Cavalry and Infantry badges.

Genuine badges made to MOD contract after 2011 should not have a maker’s mark.

Smaller badges with a single lug are collar badges. Castle over 5DG is a shoulder title. There is little evidence so far of anodised collar badges or shoulder titles that are not genuine.

Anodised badges that are badly scratched or damaged or with broken or missing sliders or lugs have little value unless a very scarce badge. They are almost impossible to repair but can be used mounted (glued) onto something.

A big subject as anodised cap and collar badges have been around for some 70+ years since being introduced in the early 1950s. Actually issued and in use longer than brass, gilding metal, white metal and bi-metal badges which mainly date from the early 1900s and were mostly superseded by anodised by the late 1960s.

I have many examples of anodised cap and collar badges in my Albums for comparison.
Tim, many thanks for the information about the A/A badges, as it's greatly appreciated
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Investment,
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