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Other Ranks wearing Officer Cap Badge?
Hi all,
I was given the attached photo a while ago, it is of a group of men from the 1st Battalion, Leinster Regiment, taken around 1920-1922. You can see in the photo all the cap badges are reflective expect one, which appears to be a bronze officers version? What are peoples thoughts? The chap in question doesn't look like an officer and is sitting to the right of the RSM. Stephen |
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He looks to be wearing a Warrant Officers pattern of tunic judging by the collar - possibly the bandmaster ? Just a thought
PL |
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He could possibly be an attached WO, perhaps pay or education corps.
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He has clearly got a large cloth rank badge on his lower right sleeve, either a crown or a crown in wreath and is dressed as a warrant officer should be.
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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WOs & Officers badges
Some more pics of WOs wearing officers badges,From an album I have in regard to the 1st Bn Lincolnshire regiment in India 1909.
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Thanks for the input guys, I'm not too good on badges so great to get that cleared up.
Cheers, Stephen |
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It's because warrant officers and staff sergeants of infantry regiments (and some other arms too) wore the same pattern cap and badge as officers at that time.
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Just aside (maybe of target) that first medal ribbon looks like a Military Cross, so wouldn't he be an officer.
Ta Jonathan |
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Jonathon,
The MC was awarded to Officers and WO's. Now awarded to all. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Simon.
Thanks, as said maybe of target at least it should now be easier to find out who he is, W.O with M.C. Sure someone will either have the regimental history or access to website/links. Ta Jonathan |
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He's not wearing puttees, would that be an officer's thing for a photograph
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A WO in barracks would rarely wear puttees unless wearing FSMO.
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If the central figure is the RSM, as he may well be, with a reflective Leinster's cap badge, and our man is a WO II [crown badge?] then his cap badge being non-reflective poses a question.
Regarding an MC, WO Class II were in an equivocal position, being eligible for an MC if substantive but only a DCM if acting or temporary. |
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Does anyone have any thoughts why the right hand soldier of the Liverpool Irish in the attached photo would be wearing an officers cord boss badge ?
P.B.
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I can only think that he had lost his ORs badge and borrowed an officer's badge for the photo. Alternatively and a very long shot, I wonder if it might have been chosen as a differential between one battalion and another (first, second, third line, etc). It does seem very strange, especially for a private soldier.
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