Victoria & St. George's Rifles busy

[Drew]

Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me whether this Victoria and St George's Rifles busby would have had another part to the plume? For example, another red attachment on top. Were there two parts to the plume?

Many thanks,

Chris

[leigh kitchen]

The plume should be black over red.

[Drew]

Thanks very much indeed for the confirmation. Thanks too for the wonderful photo. I believe KRRC ordinary ranks usually had black over red, but I have seen a postcard from the early days of the Queen Vics which appears to show an OR with red at the top. I wondered if this busby was a similar example and if the Queen Vics (or any of their forerunners), went against the norm.

Can I just ask, is your example Pre-1908 or after?

Many thanks,

Chris

[leigh kitchen]

It'll be pre-1908 as the St Georges & Victoria's Rifles became the Queen Victoria's Rifles, the 9th London's that year.
Then again, could it be that c1908 there was no hurry in changing the badge but the plume reversed colours?
It looks like some units used reversed or single coloured plumes to distinguish particular appointments eg COs Bugler, perhaps that was the case with the illustration showing red over black you refer to?
Edit to add that the one I have has a black badge boss, cords & top.

[Drew]

That's great. Thank you again.

If I can impose a bit further, does that mean something might not quite right with the auction site example I posted?

Chris

[leigh kitchen]

I can't make out the colour of the top in the image you've posted, but if it's green it doesn't tally with the black topped one I have.
I do have a cap with green cords, black plume & top but unfortunately no badge, boss, or unit markings.
It could well be that the cap & plume pairing that you show is original, but not to the St Georges & Victoria Rifles.

Another edit: it's pre-midday, far to early for me to string words together - apologies for reversing the name of the Victoria & St Georges Rifles in my posts.