What are the sizes of these badges? If they are larger than the standard pattern of today, it might be that they date back to the old, pre-1900 pattern forage cap, whose badge was larger. These forage caps seem to have been largely forgot and yet they go back to at least 1853, when they replaced a previous, peaked forage cap, with a similar large badge, that had been worn since at least 1830. An almost identical badge, but with screw post fixing was fitted to the cartouche.
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