[Chris Walker]

Dear Mike and Phil.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Mike. I know for sure that photo 1 and 3 are the same Grant Plaid Brooch as I know who owns the third badge and he was ex Junior Leaders Regiment Pipe Band in 1962 to 65. First is the Senior Pipe Sergeant of the JLR Pipe Band in my time 1964.

Phil is in my honest opinion correct. All three are Clan Grant Plaid Brooches.

I can not say why the second brooch which was the Pipe Major of the Army Apprentice College Harrogate and wore the badge as shown in the 2nd photo from 1966 to 1968 when the photo was taken. His name is John McKay. I am in touch with him but he can not remember what the Plaid Brooch was.

My interest is this. JLR Denbury closed down in August 1967. Any Junior Leaders still in training went to Harrogate to finish their training. No Pipe Band members if they joined the Pipe Band at Harrogate took their Pipe Band dress with them, especially their plaid as they actually wore the Grant Plaid. Harrogate Pipe Band wore the Black Watch Plaid Tartan.

As mentioned above I believe all three Plaid Brooches are the Grant Plaid Brooch.

Harrogate Pipe Band changed their Plaid Brooch in the very early 1970's to the one shown below.

Thanks for your time and trouble in answering my question.

Best wishes

Chris Walker