Anodised Aluminium Cap Badges By H W Timings Limited
Hi Guys,
This week it's H W Timings Limited. Remember, only those badge in collections you can actually touch for inclusion. Here's mine to get going: 1st to 4th City Of London Regiment 10th Royal Hussars 12th Lancers Army Air Corps Berkshire Yeomanry Birmingham University UTC Crown (Civilian Employees) Durham Light Infantry Essex Yeo KC Essex Yeomanry with QC (32mm beret size). Forester Brigade Green Howards (1st Pattern) Hertfordshire Yeo Home Counties Brigade Household Cavalry Monmouth School Northumberland Hussars Notts & Derby Parachute Regt PWO Regiment Of Yorkshire (Scroll 'Leeds Rifles') Lancastrian Brigade Leicestershire & Derbyshire Yeo Life Guards Light Infantry Mercian Bde Military Provost Staff Corps Queens Own Hussars Royal Ulster Rifles Sheffield University U.T.C St Andrews University UTC (Kings Crown) Suffolk Regiment Suffolk & Norfolk Yeomanry Sussex Yeomanry ( Q.C) War Dept Police (Cyprus) Welsh Regiment West Yorkshire Regiment Regards Chris |
Only one by this manufacturer:-
Home Counties Brigade OC14 |
G'day Chris
Only one from me also Notts & Derby (HW.Timings ltd B'ham) Cheers John |
Chris
A few more for your list:- Suffolk Regiment Hertfordshire Yeo West Yorkshire Regiment Birmingham University UTC Leicestershire & Derbyshire Yeo Essex Yeo KC 10th Royal Hussars East Yorkshire Regiment (already discussed authenticity of this one with you) Paddy |
Thanks Guys,
Paddy, looking at the slider on your East Yorkshire Regiment badge show what looks very much like a London Badge and Button Co slider with a Timing mark added. The badge body though to be fair to LB&B does not look like their work and I think someone has taken a plain LB&B skider, marked it probably with the original Timings punch and added it to a dodgy body made via open casting. I would of course need to see this in the hand to be sure one way or the other. The provence of where you got it from does not leave me with confidence as to authenticity either. Mate, I'll leave this one off for now. Regards Chris |
Suffolk & Norfolk Yeomanry
Mark |
H.W TIMINGS
A few more Chris,
The Life Guards The Queens Own Hussars 12th Lancers Sussex Yeomanry ( Q.C) The Green Howards (1st Pattern) The Light Infantry The Royal Ulster Rifles The Mercian Bde The Lancastrian Brigade The Parachute Regt Sheffield University U.T.C Best Regards. ukbrits |
Thanks Guys,
Regards Chris |
Just the One
Army Air Corps Cheers, Dave |
Thanks Dave...
Regards Chris |
I have the following one: Essex Yeomanry with QC (32mm beret size).
As noted earlier in the thread there is also a KC beret badge from them |
Thanks Mate,
Both covered now. Regards Chris |
Have one to add:
Forester Brigade Regards Tony. |
Thanks Again...
Regards Chris |
timings a/a badges
Hi Chris,
2 more to add, they are - The Berkshire Yeomanry & The Welsh Regiment Best Regards UKbrits |
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Regards Chris |
h.w timings
Hi Chris,
One more for the list - Monmouth School Regards UKbrits |
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Hi Chris
There is an example of the LDYPAO "Timmings" badge in my LDYPAO Post :D Its the infamous "Flat" badge (Yuck!) Have you got the production dates etc? |
LDYPAO A/A
Hi Chris
Here is the “H.W.TIMINGS LTD B’HAM” LDYPAO AA Badge. It is identical to the post 1970 JR Gaunt….. I reckon it’s the same die purchased by Timings from Gaunts. The back of the badge is different …. But the face of the badge is exact….. in fact I prefer it to the Gaunts “Dazzler”…. Timings made this one less bright. Slider width = 5.6mm; Length = 38.6mm; thickness = 1.6mm http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...970Timings.jpg |
Griff,
When you say that it is identical to the Gaunt version can you show where similarities in die flaws etc. from both marked badges exist. If you could put both badges side by side and post here then that may help also. Regards Chris |
Hi Chris
Compare it to the "Dazzler" by Gaunt. (do you think they sub contracted work for Gaunt?) http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...970Timings.jpg JR Gaunt London (left) B'Ham (right) badges below:- http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...ostCollarK.jpg |
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These badges (I'm assuming the 1963 is the Timings and the 1970 the Gaunt) are from two very different dies or am I missing something here? Regards Chris |
Sorry if you go back to my post you will see the 1963 is the Gaunt London and the 1970 is the Gaunt B'ham (Dazzler). Compare the Dazzler to the Timings.
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Regards Chris |
HW. Timings
Hi Chris,
One more for the list. Durham L I beret HW. Timings Best regards UKbrits |
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Could be but I think the marks were added after they left the factory. I'm unable to confirm this yet though as I need an example 'in hand' to look at properly. For good badges maker marks were added to the slider before anodising and colouring as denoted by: a) sometimes found on the reverse of the slider where access after assembly would be impossible for a punch b) absence of damage to the anodic crust which would have been created by the maker mark punch strike c) recessed character areas having the same colour as the slider and not exhibiting raw aluminium An East Yorks came my way via photos on the weekend and I was not happy with it as the slider and manufacturer's mark did not reconcile. Also some other factors of these dodgy badges did not look those attributed to the company they are purporting to have come from. It came from a box load all wrapped in tissue or crepe paper from someone I have been investigating for some time now. The issue is what other items are out there like this - hopefully they will be easy to spot and I now think I know what I'm looking for. Regards Chris |
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Chris |
Chris picked up an MOD Guards Service badge this morning with a Timmings mark.
cheers Tony. |
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How old, in general, are badges by this particular maker?
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Okay, many thanks, that is good to know.
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Referencing Hagwalthers book,he states that "Timings expanded its commercial activities as far as New Zealand in the early 70's" . So rather than 1970 I'd push that out to 1975. There's only a handful of badges to regiments that existed after 1970.
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Has South Wales Borderers been added to the list of Timings named badges?
Jack |
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Some of the very first A/A cap badges were made by Timings and if given a choice are the ones that I prefer to collect. Regards, Chris |
Hello Chris,
These certainly do seem to be the badges to buy as far as anodised collecting goes, many thanks. Regards Frank |
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Apart from my Timings SWB badge that I posted on here, that is the only other one I have seen. I would image they are quite scarce. Jack |
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