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Alan O 07-07-14 04:56 AM

Unofficial commissions, copies and fakes
 
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It's my intention to show the small number of incorrect a/a badges that I own. I bought them all for less than 6 (less the Hants) but certain dealers still flog them for a lot. lot more. I will show photos of fronts and backs and explain whether they are:

a. Factory error; others recorded here: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...actory+hussars
b. Unofficial commission of a genuine badge design.
c. Out and out fake that was never made in a/a.
d. Made but never worn by the regiment.

If any one can post similar photos of the fake ones I am missing ( SWB, Suffolks for eg) then I will update the thread. I will pin this to the thread as a reference and as such will remove all other posts in due course but please comment during its assembly.

The authority for these badges is Chris' book. There are other publications but they are unreliable and one is down right wrong.

it's up to the individual collector whether to include these badges in their collection or not. I have a few that I have paid very little for but I would counsel against paying some exorbitant prices being asked online and at auction for a badge that was never worn. I have not included badges made for cadets (such as the Bucks Bn made solely for cadets) or the plethora of badges (such as the SAS) made for collectors by Gaunt Bham and others.

Copied from previous thread:

An unofficial commission of a parachute regt badge that was not authorised for production.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:42 PM

Royal Warwickshire
 
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An unofficial commission of a badge that was authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

Bought from 5 from Jeremy Tenniswood in 2005. he had a box of them.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:44 PM

Queen's Crown Highland Light Infantry
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:51 PM

Fife and Forfar Yeomanry
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production in a/a.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

This one cost me $10.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:54 PM

Loyal Suffolk Hussars yeomanry
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:55 PM

Royal Ulster Rifles King's Crown
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

Bought for 3 in Devizes in 2006.

Alan O 04-04-16 03:58 PM

Duke of Connaughts in gold a/a
 
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A factory error of a badge that was authorised for production in silver. The slider shows sign of wear and has been bent for a beret.

This is the only one I have ever seen in gold a/a.

Firmin mark.

Die cast reverse.

Alan O 04-04-16 04:01 PM

9th Lancers
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die cast reverse.

Bought in a job lot of other badges.

Alan O 04-04-16 04:42 PM

South Staffordshire - unmarked slider
 
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An unofficial commission of a badge that was authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

Bought from 5 from Jeremy Tenniswood in 2005. he had a box of them

Alan O 04-04-16 04:45 PM

Norfolk Yeomanry
 
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An badge that was not authorised for production for the Norfolk Yeomanry.

It has been suggested that it was actually used by Royal parks staff and the like.

Firmin maker's mark.

Die cast reverse.

3748 Hussar 04-04-16 04:49 PM

3rd King's Own Hussars
 
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A badge that was not authorised for production.

No maker's mark.

Die struck reverse.

These surfaced for the tertencenay parade 1985. It uses the QOH pattern horse.

Alan O 04-04-16 04:56 PM

Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regt
 
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The Beds & Herts was not authorised for a/a.

Die struck fake with a Firmin slider.

Alan O 04-04-16 05:22 PM

Welch Regt
 
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A copy of a badge that was authorised for production.

Die struck with blank slider.

Alan O 04-04-16 05:22 PM

East Yorkshire Regt
 
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A fake badge that was not authorised for production.

Die struck with Timings slider.

Alan O 04-04-16 06:30 PM

AEA Wiltshire Regt
 
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A copy of a badge that was authorised for production but has been reproduced with a Gaunt maker's mark and a die struck reverse.

The period Wiltshire AEA cypher badges were made with a riveted slider marked Grove MFG B'Ham. They had a cast back


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