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Traist 21-02-09 10:05 AM

Please help with ID
 
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Hi, This badge came to light in South Africa. I do not think that it is South African, can anybody positively ID it? Please let me know. Regards Andrew

wright241 21-02-09 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Traist (Post 32919)
Hi, This badge came to light in South Africa. I do not think that it is South African, can anybody positively ID it? Please let me know. Regards Andrew

Sizes please and what sort of fittings are on the back. These are always
difficult unless the letters can be clearly identified - otherwise you see
what you want to see..... It could be a pouch badge.
david

bgpipes 21-02-09 12:02 PM

Please help with ID?
 
:)I checked all the way through Mazeas pre-1914 book,not likely to be Canadian.

wright241 21-02-09 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Traist (Post 32919)
Hi, This badge came to light in South Africa. I do not think that it is South African, can anybody positively ID it? Please let me know. Regards Andrew

I have no graphics software with me to try and isolate each
letter in turn and "remove" it - if you do, try it. it works most
of the time..... I will try and save the image and and do it at
my digs. Looks to me as if you have a W and a C at the end
and ## in the middle.

Traist 21-02-09 01:37 PM

Hi, Thank you for the comments so far. It looks like WVC. It has 3 screw fittings on the back. The sizes are, height about 50mm and width about 55mm. Please let me know if you find anything. Regards Andrew

boots and saddles 21-02-09 04:42 PM

[I]'m curious as to what the wreath is made up of, maybe holly on one side, but what's the other CRABGRASS? letters could be WVC? Interesting anyway.

41st 21-02-09 09:36 PM


The wreath appears to be made up of half laurel, half palm. I have examples of this type of wreath on some of my Victorian helmet plates, but don't recognise the lettering on this one.

Traist 22-02-09 10:31 AM

Thank you for all the comments so far.

Arthur 22-02-09 12:10 PM

Hi Andrew,

I believe your badge has a conection with The West Indies Regiments, note the wreath half laural/ [hazard a guess] half sugar cane!

Regards
Arthur

Traist 22-02-09 06:12 PM

Hi Arthur, I am starting to suspect that. Anybody out there know anything about the West Indies badges? Andrew

41st 22-02-09 07:53 PM

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The palm part of a wreath looks like this one below on a 41st Regiment Helmet Plate, which is I believe as shown on the subject badge.

wright241 23-02-09 03:30 AM

I don't suppose that the C could stand for Constabulary.
I noticed this being used on a few South African pouch
ornaments...

Arthur 23-02-09 06:15 AM

Hi 41st,

Looking at your 41st [Welsh] helmet plate I would agree with you, even though I had originally thought that it looked similar to the West Indian Regts, as their wreaths are very similar. However, if I am right in thinking the 41st served in the W. Indies in the mid 1700's.

I had the VC part of the cypher down as Volunteer Corps.

Regards
Arthur

Traist 23-02-09 06:53 AM

Thank you. This is all very interesting. I agree on the Volunteer Corps, or Volunteer Cavalry. The question is what is the W? Hope somebody recognises it. Regards Andrew

Traist 25-02-09 08:23 AM

Well it looks like I will have to put it back into my box of unknowns. Thanks to all for trying to help. Andrew

wsalt@bigpond.net.au 28-02-09 08:23 AM

Hi,
I was wondering if that is sugar cane on the right & it's a West Indies badge??

Regards, Wayne

Traist 28-02-09 11:27 AM

Hi Wayne, It may be. I just wish I could get a possitive ID on it. Thanks for the comments. Andrew

Traist 27-01-12 04:58 PM

Hi, this one has been dormant for a very long time. Has anybody picked up some new knowledge, or somebody new joined who may be able to ID this badge. Please have another look. Regards Andrew

Fatherofthree 27-01-12 11:21 PM

Hi Andrew.

A mystery indeed.

I love the occasional challenge.

I've spent the past 3/4 s of an hour or so on t'internet trying all sorts of stuff with the letters, even trying Windsor Castle Volunteers and Victoria's Witch's Convention.............it wasn't them.

I do believe that, as has already been mentioned, it is connected with The West Indies Regiment. It certainly has the same wreaths as a couple of their badges.

This for example, minus the ribbon where the wreaths join:

http://www.cariwave.com/the_british_...s_regiment.htm

How about West Carribbean Volunteers.....but I can't find anything on that either.

Or Western Cape Volunteers, but that's not mentioned either.

I love a mystery, there is somebody who will always have the answer.

Nice badge by the way.:)

Hope the answer is not too long in coming.

Regards
Brian

GriffMJ 28-01-12 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Traist (Post 32934)
Hi, Thank you for the comments so far. It looks like WVC. It has 3 screw fittings on the back. The sizes are, height about 50mm and width about 55mm. Please let me know if you find anything. Regards Andrew

WVC it is :) Its a Boer War period item from early QVC period Yeomanry IMO....... " W______ Volunteer Cavalry" .... I think its a crossbelt fitting?

Traist 28-01-12 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatherofthree (Post 152512)
Hi Andrew.

A mystery indeed.

I love the occasional challenge.

I've spent the past 3/4 s of an hour or so on t'internet trying all sorts of stuff with the letters, even trying Windsor Castle Volunteers and Victoria's Witch's Convention.............it wasn't them.

I do believe that, as has already been mentioned, it is connected with The West Indies Regiment. It certainly has the same wreaths as a couple of their badges.

This for example, minus the ribbon where the wreaths join:

http://www.cariwave.com/the_british_...s_regiment.htm

How about West Carribbean Volunteers.....but I can't find anything on that either.

Or Western Cape Volunteers, but that's not mentioned either.

I love a mystery, there is somebody who will always have the answer.

Nice badge by the way.:)

Hope the answer is not too long in coming.

Regards
Brian

Thank you Brian. I have found another person who has one, but also doesn't know what it is. I will keep on scratching. It is a beautiful badge, so I hope I do find the answer. Regards Brian

Traist 28-01-12 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GriffMJ (Post 152538)
WVC it is :) Its a Boer War period item from early QVC period Yeomanry IMO....... " W______ Volunteer Cavalry" .... I think its a crossbelt fitting?

Thanks Griff. "W" what is the question. I hope somebody can fill in that blank. Regards Andrew

Traist 13-08-16 08:58 AM

Hi, I'm just moving this up again to see if there is any new info come to light. Let's hope I can settle it. Have a grand day. Andrew

Frank Kelley 13-08-16 04:36 PM

You don't think it is South African?

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Originally Posted by Traist (Post 32919)
Hi, This badge came to light in South Africa. I do not think that it is South African, can anybody positively ID it? Please let me know. Regards Andrew


Traist 13-08-16 07:21 PM

Hi Frank, it's just the wreath that makes me think that it isn't. I would love for it to be South African :D . I would really like to move it out of my unknown box. Can you add anything? Regards Andrew

Traist 12-02-18 06:33 PM

Hi, let's give it another shot. Can anyone nail this ID down? Have a great evening. Andrew

KOMalta 13-02-18 02:22 AM

Just a thought, could it be Wainuiomata Volunteer Corps!! :confused:

Maybe our fellow New Zealanders could confirm.


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