There remains some sharp practice by some dealers selling 'OTC' badges which are in fact modern CCF badges and therefore still in production today.

These include:

Ampleforth wear the old OTC design in bronzed metal but with CCF title on a red backing.

Barnard Castle CCF wear the double shield badge in gilding metal.

Bloxham School CCF retain their own school design in a very yellow and shiny gilding metal. The CCF's NCOs wears the Rifles cap badge alongside the school badge. http://www.bloxhamschool.com/news-an.../ccf-camp.html

Christ's Hospital Have readopted their OTC badge design in metal. http://www.christs-hospital.org.uk/n...r-army-cadets/

Fettes College The school badge in silver finish.

Glenalmond School CCF CCf retains the old BW VB/ OTC design in white metal.

Kings School Rochester School CCF wear the old OTC design in shiny metal but with CCF title. http://www.kings-rochester.co.uk/CCF-centenary.aspx

Lancaster Royal Grammar School - School badge in gilt worn upon a Duke of Lancaster's beret. http://www.lrgs.org.uk/sites/default...ry-OTC-CCF.pdf

Liverpool College CCF - CCF wear the old OTC design but with CCF title.

Marlborough College has re-adopted their first pattern badge in black for the CCF. It is die-cast solid backed unlike the earlier die stamped badges. http://www.marlboroughcollege.org/ne.../#!prettyPhoto

Merchant Taylors School London the coat of arms design in metal with an anodised finish.

Oundle School still wear their badge on peaked caps but with Oundle School title only. A cloth version is worn on the beret.http://www.oundleschool.org.uk/extra...n%20parade.jpg

Portsmouth Grammar School - the most modern ones have Firmin marked sliders. The CCF wore lugged badges in the 60s and possibly later.

St Edmunds Canterbury Today still wear the OTC design with CCF title.

St Edmunds Ware Have commissioned a new CCF badge in the OTC design with the title scroll removed.

St Lawrence College CCF - modern metal with an anodised finish

Solihull School CCF - old design with CCF title.

Stowe School wear the OTC design in chrome and with a pin. : http://www.stowe.co.uk/news-and-even...tream-cup-2012 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ctureid=108316

Stonyhurst College wear the OTC design in black and in chrome.

Sutton Valence School CCF wear the sheep badge in gilding metal. http://www.svs.org.uk/Senior-School-CCF.aspx

Uppingham School CCF are wearing the Upppingham tiger in bronze

Wellington School Somerset wear the OTC design in gilding metal.

Kimbolton School is another one ( sometimes sold as Huntingdonshire Cyclists or Home guard)
PL

You can spot the Marlborough college a mile away .The early examples are die struck the one worn at present is cast - photo in gallery and my album

Some items to Marlborough cadets in my collection
H.P Marlborough college cadet corps wm sgt
H.P Marlborough college cadet corps b/b
Marlborough college cadet corps b/b lugs-die struck
Marlborough college O .T.C corps slider
Marlborough[ mitre ] B/B BR A/A on lugs
Marlborough college cadet corps cast modern issue[obtained from the college]

Christ's Hospital CCF
 

http://www.christs-hospital.org.uk/n...r-army-cadets/

They have returned to wearing their old design in metal having worn cloth badges since the '80's.

2 pictures of Sutton Valance badges. The old OTC design and the modern CCF one. The CCF one has a pointed snout and all 4 hooves touch the ground. Dealers please take note!

The school archives show that the WW1 era badge was bronzed but worn with brass tunic buttons.

https://issuu.com/suttonvalenceschoo...k_october_2014

Solihull CCF
 

The OTC design with CCF title but now with the RRF hackle.

Dulwich College
 

Dulwich still use the same design.

I'll get you a photo next week.

Best
Zeb

Are you sure - looks like RA to me

http://www.dulwich.org.uk/college/ne...ch-college-ccf

Alan

I don't know what their stores are like, but some are issued with the RA cap badge, and some with the 'Dulwich' one.

Zeb

The Gordon Boys School ( Now Gordon's School) have worn the OTC badge in gilding metal and Anodised Aluminium since becoming a CCF rather than an OTC. Change from Gilding metal to Gold coloured Anodised Aluminium was in the late 1960s. So the Anodised version has only been used for CCF. The Gilding metal badge was worn by CCF and OTC.

James thanks for those dates. To be exact the school has never had an OTC and was not part of the OTC movement. As it was for other-ranks it had a Cadet Corps prior to them becoming a CCF.

There is a silver anodised version. Pipers presumably,but this is no longer worn.

Glenalmond College
 

Glenalmond College CCF retain the old Black watch VB eagle design in white metal.

http://www.glenalmondcollege.co.uk/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/898162...7656659962754/

What about this one, where/when does it fit in?

As a CCF badge its post 1948 and probably later. The School no longer wears the design.

Hi Alan,

Well, that's what I took out from the discussion thus far, circa 1948 or later but I was curious to see it was, what appears to be, a bronze badge apparently with loops for attachment. I would have thought it should be nickel or white metal at this point?

Trying to learn here.

So, bronze with loops circa 1950's would be... Officer or Other Ranks?

Tim

Tim

When it comes to cadets there are no rules.

Alan

:D:p

The badge was most definitely still in use between 2005 and 2010 whilst I was working in the (then) 49 (Eastern Brigade) AOR. It is my understanding that the Army Section of the Perse School CCF was either disbanded or placed in suspended animation for the foreseeable future. To the best of my knowledge the CCF at the school now only has an RAF section.

PL

Paul

The school's web entries only show a RAF section so I thought the same.

Alan

I've looked at the website for old photos and there isn't much circa WW1.

Is there a list showing the military commanding officers, with dates served, since school inception?

I also understand there is a difference between the OTC and CCF, but did the military chain of command cover both or were they too, separate commands with their own chain of command structures?

Tim

See here:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...p?albumid=1602

and here:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...p?albumid=2334

I have been looking into Downside CCF badges and here is proof that the 2nd pattern badge shown in K&K is not OTC but CCF.

The brass shield version with OTC title is recorded by EJ Martin in 1938.

CCF badge still worn with k/c today by senior cadets.

Barnard Castle
 

The OTC design but now a CCF badge in use today

From the Bloxham history:

Successive Ministry of Defence orders, issued at the speed of drill commands in 1967 and 1968, reduced the size and altered the character of the corps. It became affiliated to the Royal Green Jackets, losing its distinctive brass cap badge of the school arms and the black and white shoulder
flashes, though the former has been restored in 1977.

barnard castle ccf
 

at last nov rememberance parade in barnard castle one cadet was in no2 uniform he wore a double shield badge in his beret but rifles collor badges which he claimed they had adopted in memory of the d.l.i. when my dad went the school in the 20s he wore a green howards badge!

Barnard Castle is on the list of CCFs affiliated to the Rifles.

A little unrelated, but reading through this thread brings a question I have been wondering about.

Although I don't collect school cadet program badges I do have items from the three schools that have "Hospital" in their name. From what pictures I've been able to find online seems they wore the regimental badge they are associated with. One badge I have is for Christ's Hospital School, which is a school badge.

So my question is p- from looking at he pictures in this thread, some wear the regimental badge while it seems some wear the school badge - is there any policy involved in what badge they wear?

Thanks,

Terry

Terry

No policy at all. Pre 1908 some school cadet corps had their own badge but most wore the insignia of the VB unit they were lined to. From 1908 nearly, but not all, OTCs had their own badge. Through the 30's and 40's with the advent of JTC many went back to Regular badges. CCFs so even more re-badge. This continues to today but some still wear CCF badges. Cadet Corps mostly wore the regular and few wore their own (except for 1930-32 when they had to stop wearing them).

Alan

Many thanks Alan! very helpful for me!

Terry

Terry,
Worth saying that a few schools in this country began, sometimes century’s ago as “Hospitals” meaning schools for orphans and poor children but not in the same way as what we today refer to institutions as Hospitals.

Whilst my own School The Liverpool Bluecoat School ( which never had an OTC or CCF although it did have ACF and ATC units) it did begin life in the centre of Liverpool as a school for orphans and when my Grandfather went there as an orphan before WW1 it was known as The Bluecoat Hospital but it was still a school.

( if you follow me )

Peter

Wellington School CCF
 

New metal version version of Wellington School Somerset.

Wellington College adopted the old Duke of Welington Regiment cap badge.

St Edmunds CCF wearing the old OTC design with CCF title.

Christ Hospital
 

They have readopted a metal badge and it is much larger than the old a/a version.