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Drummajor 26-07-16 07:26 AM

Signal Corps Badge Question
 
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Hello All,
This badge was sold to me as, A Distinguished Pass Regimental Signals Badge. I have seen plenty of crossed flag badges, but never with a star. Can anyone enlighten me? Or is this just a made up fantasy?
Regards Phil.

manchesters 26-07-16 08:16 AM

Doesnt exist in the UK, cant speak for Oz though.

regards

Drummajor 26-07-16 08:57 AM

Thank you Simon, I may have bought a dud.
Phil.

Drummajor 26-07-16 08:59 AM

P.S. I bought it from the UK.

Chris Walker 26-07-16 09:53 AM

Signals Badge
 
Dear Phil.

I must admit I have never seen this configuration of Star and Signals Flags before. Certainly not British. Very much doubt it is Commonwealth either.

Perhaps Cliff Lord (Quicksilver) can venture an answer.

Best wishes

Chris Walker

manchesters 26-07-16 10:21 AM

I saw it for sale and thought it was a little 'inventive' in its description.

regards

engr9266 26-07-16 12:36 PM

May not be Royal Signals - could be any signal unit within a regiment, battalion, etc as a reward etc.

sapper533 26-07-16 02:14 PM

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I too have never seen this brass signals badge anywhere however the configuration looks like it does exist but in a different form, new not old.
EDWARDS AND LANGLEY
BRITISH RMY PROFICIENCY BADGES 2005 reprint
Page 137 photo 314

Shows this badge as "flags, crossed, star SatA Distinguised Pass Regimental Signals Standard 1 Course"

Photo is from my collection.

Cheers
Sean

fairlie63 26-07-16 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drummajor (Post 369300)
Hello All,
This badge was sold to me as, A Distinguished Pass Regimental Signals Badge. I have seen plenty of crossed flag badges, but never with a star. Can anyone enlighten me? Or is this just a made up fantasy?
Regards Phil.

Hi Phil,

A perfectly good badge - AMF Standing Orders for Dress 1935, for regimental signallers who have qualified as wireless operators.

An entirely different set of badges was worn by Aust Corps of Signals wireless operators, this was just for the artillery, tank, etc, signallers who were qualified wireless operators.

If I remember when I get home from work I'll try and scan the relevant page for you.

Keith

Drummajor 26-07-16 11:14 PM

Thank you all for your input.

Thanks Keith, nice to know it might be right, looking forward to further information.

Phil.

fairlie63 27-07-16 06:46 AM

Hi Phil,

Just had a look at my examples and the star on the Australian manufactured types is different. Five-pointed for sure but these have a rosette in the centre of them.

The star on this one might be the distance-judging star, which I've never seen.

Keith

atillathenunns 27-07-16 09:33 AM

It is my understanding that during WW1 the star was awarded for "Best at Judging Distance," and the "Badge worn on right forearm above other badges."
So it seems to me the combination is perfectly fine.

kingsley 27-07-16 12:49 PM

The star was indeed worn pre-war in Australia with a number of Trade and Skill badges. The backing plates came with the required slot on top of the badge. There were three grades:
1. Signaller (or other trade): just the plain sleeve badge
2. 2nd Class (badge with star above)
3. 1st Class (badge with crown above).
The star pictured is correct for second class but there was another larger star of different pattern which I think was worn separately for efficiency in a variety of contexts.
I will find a scan of my Trade badges and post it when able.

kingsley 27-07-16 01:57 PM

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Here is a random selection of Australian Trade badges showing stars and crowns to indicate 2nd class and 1st class. I haven't got a picture of the whole board but they were worn with many different trades. The separate larger star is the efficiency one worn by itself, also have one in oxidised finish and it was undoubtedly worn in WM as well.
I have some groups in gilt, WM, oxidised and bright copper. There are not many WM ones and have always wanted to know just which WM varieties exist.

Shiny 27-07-16 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapper533 (Post 369360)
I too have never seen this brass signals badge anywhere however the configuration looks like it does exist but in a different form, new not old.
EDWARDS AND LANGLEY
BRITISH RMY PROFICIENCY BADGES 2005 reprint
Page 137 photo 314

Shows this badge as "flags, crossed, star SatA Distinguised Pass Regimental Signals Standard 1 Course"

Photo is from my collection.

Cheers
Sean

Hi All,

I used to wear the crossed flags and was an instructor at the school that ran the courses to earn these flags.

I can honestly say I have never seen or heard of them being worn by anyone with star above them as shown in the photo in post 8.

The usual method of wear was on the left wrist for standard 2, right wrist for standard 1 and above the rank badge for instructor. I have heard of people who gained a distinction on the instructor course wearing them on top of their rank badges but I don't know how official that was.

Michael

EDIT

I've just found one of the star badges on this website being sold as a distinction badge to be worn with one of three trade badges:

http://www.tels-insignia.com/viewpho...h=64840&phqu=2

As I say, I've never seen or heard of it before.


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