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slick_mick
07-04-08, 11:21 PM
Hi Guys,

Does anyone know if such a band exists? I saw a badge to the Band of the Dragoon Guards but have never heard of them. I'm only aware of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards band.

I'll post a picture when I find it.

Mick

John Mulcahy
08-04-08, 02:02 AM
Mick

The majority of the regimental bands (Such as Royal Scots Dragoon Guards ) have been disbanded. The Band of The Dragoon Guards was formed in 1994 when the bands of 1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards, The Royal Scots Dragoon Guards and The Royal Dragoon Guards were amalgamated.

It subsequently amalgamated with the Cambrai band of the Royal Armoured Corps on the 1st June 2006 to form The Heavy Cavalry and Cambrai Band.

Robin Hodges book shows the insignia of the Band of the Dragoon Guards.

The bands have been decimated by cost cutting in the past 20 years.

John

slick_mick
08-04-08, 04:09 AM
Thanks John!

I'll also have to find a copy of that book. Does it also show the badge of The Heavy Cavalry and Cambrai Band? For that matter, would anyone happen to have a spare Heavy Cavalry and Cambrai Band badge by any chance?

Mick

John Mulcahy
08-04-08, 01:54 PM
Hodges book was published prior to the last amalgamation and I am afraid that I do not know what insignia they wear.

John

revdougal
08-04-08, 03:35 PM
Last summer one of the Yorkshire Regiment battalions were excercising their freedom rights in Hull and Beverley on return from duty in ME, and were accompanied by The Heavy Cav and Cambrai Band. I was intrigued however by their No1 Dress: tank arm badge, chains, No1 black/dark blue cap bearing the RAC badge - which may have been a touch larger than what we are used to.

slick_mick
09-04-08, 12:07 AM
I did find their emblem here:

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.army.mod.uk/img/bands/hccband/hcc_badge_colourw150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.army.mod.uk/bands/hccband/new_video_page/video_page_11_masse.htm&h=161&w=150&sz=11&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=zOl5gDBXgi4GEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHeavy%2BCavalry%2Band%2BCambrai%2BBan d%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Not sure if it has been made into a badge though.

Mick

54Bty
09-04-08, 07:41 PM
The wire embroidered badge of The Band of The Dragoon Guards.

Wire embroidered.

Spencer
10-04-08, 06:20 PM
I served in the 4/7RDG which had its own band up to 1992 . The band had the same cap badge as the Regiment and the Dettingen flash . This is a diamond with yellow red and black inside . On the amalgamation between 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards I left the Army so I would imagine both of the Regiments bands came together .
The RDG have the same Dettingen flash on the cap badge and arm so the RDG band would have the same .

revdougal
29-04-08, 03:21 PM
See my previous - nothing has changed yet. Today at York for the Kohima Commemoration the Band was wearing the uniform as I described, with cap and collar badges of RAC

Mike H
29-04-08, 07:41 PM
I did find their emblem here:

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.army.mod.uk/img/bands/hccband/hcc_badge_colourw150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.army.mod.uk/bands/hccband/new_video_page/video_page_11_masse.htm&h=161&w=150&sz=11&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=zOl5gDBXgi4GEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHeavy%2BCavalry%2Band%2BCambrai%2BBan d%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

Not sure if it has been made into a badge though.

Mick

Ive just looked on the MOD website and the Heavy band are wearing RAC cap and collar badges.The light band are also wearing RAC badges although their emblem is different.

Brian_A
03-05-08, 02:28 AM
Spence,

The 4/7 DG Regimental flash was not linked to Dettingen. Nor was it on the RDG cap badge. Flashes in Regimental colours were linked to regiments who were involved in WW2. The 4/7 DG first wore their flash in 1939 in Northern France in support of the British Expeditionary Force, one of the first armoured units to fight in the desperate but gallant withdrawal to Dunkirk and it is believed to be the first regiment to wear a Tactical Recognition Flash. The worsted material recognition flash came about following an order to remove badges of recognition from battle-dress to conceal regimental identity. The design was copied from the painted diamond flash in Regimental colours on the steel helmets. The order was later recinded so back on went the collar-dogs and numerals but the cloth badge remained. The 13/18H later followed suit in 1940 with a blue and white flash.

The 4/7 DG Regimental flash was worn by all ranks below Warrant Officer on BD/SDs upon the left arm 1" below the shoulder seam. (Or 1/8" below the formation badge when one was worn on BDs). After WW2 and up until 1960 the flash was machine made in silken thread then post-1960 it was machine made in worsted thread. The flash comprises one black diamond, a chevron in old gold and two maroon chevrons, the whole being surrounded by black thread edging, the entire embroidery being mounted upon a diamond shaped black cloth background.

(Source - 'The Dress Distinctions of the 4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards, 1961, Langridge's Military Publications of 13 Oxford Road, Cambridge'.)

Brian

Mike H
08-05-08, 12:12 PM
Hi Guys,

Does anyone know if such a band exists? I saw a badge to the Band of the Dragoon Guards but have never heard of them. I'm only aware of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards band.

I'll post a picture when I find it.

Mick

Here you go Mick,a picture of the cap badge.It appears to be gilt with blue and silver enamel,similar to the Queens Division band badge.Probaly quite rare as the Band didnt exist for that long.

Mike H
31-05-08, 01:49 PM
Band of the Dragoon guards cap badge available on ebay item no 320258196483.If anybody is interested.

wright241
11-06-08, 04:55 AM
Band of the Dragoon guards cap badge available on ebay item no 320258196483.If anybody is interested.

Many thanks for the info - turns out my missus got it for me... Good eggs. The pair of youse.
David